once in a while, a judge, who was quite senior, would call me and say, we are going for lunch akron chaimhronheim, it was the biggest liquor distributor in the d.c. area. [laughter] jus. ginsberg: before we went to his warehouse, we would stop at the supreme court and pick up justice brennan and justice marshall. i knew justice scalia from our court of appeals days. i knew justice clarence thomas, who was also on the d.c. circuit. sandra was as close as i came to having a big sister. i did have a big sister, but she died in my infancy, so i never knew her. justice o'connor was the most welcoming. she gave me some very good advice. not only when i was a new justice, but during my first cancer battle. because justice o'connor had breast cancer and she was on the bench nine days after her cancer surgeries. david: wow. jus. ginsburg: she was very clear about what i had to do. she said, ruth, you have your chemotherapy on friday, that way you will get over it during the weekend, so you can be back. [laughter] david: now, the best way to win a case if you are arguing one before the supreme cour