i like vice chair borden's ideas for the payment options for the lifeline pass. looking into away where people could not have to pay the full amount upfront on the first of the month before we get a fare aggregatetor option to allow them to pay weekly towards the lifeline pass. that brings up, again, i know the hearing from the people whose homes were towed hit me so hard last month. it was suggested to me by somebody who knows about that. we could look into a system where we enroll somebody in the payment method to pay off parking tickets. it seems that a lot of the time people who are vehiclely housed may not be engaged with the social services system, and this could accomplish two things, which would be to engage them with the social services system. even if they are paying a small regular amount towards the parking tickets, it is a way to scoot them into the whole world of opportunity that the city can offer them in terms of help. those are my two cents worth from my living room. i will now go back on mute. >> very good. director, do you have anything to add?

vice chair borden? >> vice chair borden: i would say in my neighborhood, the mission, a lot of people still riding the bus. i see it well into the evening as well as in the day that the buses are quite busy, and the people, this is how they get to work. for a lot of employees, i cannot understate how significant this crisis is for them and their livelihood. >> chairman heinicke: yes. we will consider that in our decisions moving forward. jeff, how long have you been on the job? >> director tumlin: 100 days? >> chairman heinicke: i think for anything like this to hit anyone else it would be devastating, but working with you, especially over the last couple of weeks, you have hit the ground running. i will thank director eaken, borden, and torres for bringing you to us. your honor born for this. next item. >> clerk: okay. next item is the mayor's report, and i don't see anyone, so today, we will not have the report. >> chairman heinicke: is there anyone who wants to comment on that today? great. next item

vice chair borden? >> vice chair borden: i would say in my neighborhood, the mission, a lot of people still riding the bus. i see it well into the evening as well as in the day that the buses are quite busy, and the people, this is how they get to work. for a lot of employees, i cannot understate how significant this crisis is for them and their livelihood. >> chairman heinicke: yes. we will consider that in our decisions moving forward. jeff, how long have you been on the job? >> director tumlin: 100 days? >> chairman heinicke: i think for anything like this to hit anyone else it would be devastating, but working with you, especially over the last couple of weeks, you have hit the ground running. i will thank director eaken, borden, and torres for bringing you to us. your honor born for this. next item. >> clerk: okay. next item is the mayor's report, and i don't see anyone, so today, we will not have the report. >> chairman heinicke: is there anyone who wants to comment on that today? great. next item

vice chair borden? >> vice chair borden: i would say in my neighborhood, the mission, a lot of people still riding the bus. i see it well into the evening as well as in the day that the buses are quite busy, and the people, this is how they get to work. for a lot of employees, i cannot understate how significant this crisis is for them and their livelihood. >> chairman heinicke: yes. we will consider that in our decisions moving forward. jeff, how long have you been on the job? >> director tumlin: 100 days? >> chairman heinicke: i think for anything like this to hit anyone else it would be devastating, but working with you, especially over the last couple of weeks, you have hit the ground running. i will thank director eaken, borden, and torres for bringing you to us. your honor born for this. next item. >> clerk: okay. next item is the mayor's report, and i don't see anyone, so today, we will not have the report. >> chairman heinicke: is there anyone who wants to comment on that today? great. next item

vice chair borden? >> vice chair borden: i would say in my neighborhood, the mission, a lot of people still riding the bus. i see it well into the evening as well as in the day that the buses are quite busy, and the people, this is how they get to work. for a lot of employees, i cannot understate how significant this crisis is for them and their livelihood. >> chairman heinicke: yes. we will consider that in our decisions moving forward. jeff, how long have you been on the job? >> director tumlin: 100 days? >> chairman heinicke: i think for anything like this to hit anyone else it would be devastating, but working with you, especially over the last couple of weeks, you have hit the ground running. i will thank director eaken, borden, and torres for bringing you to us. your honor born for this. next item. >> clerk: okay. next item is the mayor's report, and i don't see anyone, so today, we will not have the report. >> chairman heinicke: is there anyone who wants to comment on that today? great. next item

vice chair borden. >> just going on. >> if you would care to give jonathan your guidance. you have spoken on these issues. >> i think just being able to go back to i am happy with keeping the cash fare the same for fiscal 21 and 22 for the reasons that director eaken stated. it is important at this point. the economy could be much better in 2022, we don't know is the problem. in terms where our customer base will be. other issues. i think, you know, trying to figure out ways to recapture some of the last income and not necessarily be appropriating in the budget but the core transit operations that the working group proposed that we cannot fund and how we figure out prioritizing those things. i think also in terms of using the fund balance, it makes sense to use it for this purpose. it was pointed out that because we get so much money from the general fund and the mayor's office looks at us having the reserve that other departments don't have, it puts us in a worse position. we are better off spending the money so more is available in the future as opposed to holding on to

vice chair borden. >> just going on. >> if you would care to give jonathan your guidance. you have spoken on these issues. >> i think just being able to go back to i am happy with keeping the cash fare the same for fiscal 21 and 22 for the reasons that director eaken stated. it is important at this point. the economy could be much better in 2022, we don't know is the problem. in terms where our customer base will be. other issues. i think, you know, trying to figure out ways to recapture some of the last income and not necessarily be appropriating in the budget but the core transit operations that the working group proposed that we cannot fund and how we figure out prioritizing those things. i think also in terms of using the fund balance, it makes sense to use it for this purpose. it was pointed out that because we get so much money from the general fund and the mayor's office looks at us having the reserve that other departments don't have, it puts us in a worse position. we are better off spending the money so more is available in the future as opposed to holding on to

so i want to think particularly gwyneth borden and ed harington for co-chairing the working group.ay we have ms. stevenson and ms. kershbalm, who can give you high-level answers to questions that were posed and the information that was garnered during the course of a half year. so why don't we start with ms. stevenson. >> good morning, board members, my name is peg stevenson, and i'm in the controller's office. we were really pleased to have the opportunity to work on this working group and meet and work with sfmta staff and all of the members that joined. i concur with chair peskin, it was a little like going back to college. we learned about transit issues that i'd been out of for a couple of years. maybe i'll talk about the process and what the working group went through, and then probably ask julie come up and speak more to the findings and recommendations, since it is her technical bailiwick more than mine. the group ranged from people who were quite expert to those of us more lay people. this is just a broad statement of the goals that we tried to focus on to kind of coelless

chair i really appreciate it. the accommodation. i wanted to ask mr. quickly and miss duke about your compensation. 600 >> 630,000. dollars >> 417,000. >> how many times last year that the board convene in person? >> borden person i'm, i'm guessing perhaps 12. i had probably 90 meetings in relation to my committee meetings -- >> the full bore? >> i was working full-time. >> what about the other companies you've been upward of where you're not working full-time for them? >> not full-time no. >> if you were working full-time with wells fargo -- >> the questions when i was doing the ceo searches require my involvement every single day that is the point i was trying to make. >> my question is about your thoughts as long term fort members that wells fargo about the remaining board. because there are folks that are sitting on the board today i have their files here. these are folks that data breaches, staples, health markets scandals, collects, hundred and tell hundred and 10 million a target, the auditor for a ig, these are not exactly equal scouts. what is your opinion about the current, the capacity of the current board regarding the number of them that have come from consumer situations to steal wells farg