vice chairperson avalos: what if we were to make the threshold 80%? would that help us get to a 50% majority? >> i would assume that there may be some that might creep over the 50% mark. vice chairperson avalos: i just don't know if the 65% signed makes any sense, based on this data, at all. >> correct. getting to the city offices, out of the top 20, we looked at the top 20 cities to determine whether there are systems for voting for mayor. three of the top 20 outside of san francisco had enough data that we couldn't collect it and inform ourselves, los angeles, detroit, and charlotte. in los angeles, which you will notice, they have 50% and you win in the primary, and you do not go on to the second collection, and they are actually in a march, april, may, june that scenario, separate from any other time or anything else on the ballot. in those cases, the 50%/65% rule could work out because their voter turnout tends to be lower and there is a much core group of people showing up, and the fact that you could win at wrightwood push more people to shop.

chairperson chu: supervisor avalos? supervisor avalos: are we hitting that mark on all of our trades? and what is the fluctuation of between the trades on that mandate? >> we are not hitting the mark on all of them. we tend to be doing better with laborers, operating engineers, and partners. we tend to do less well with -- and carpenters. we tend to do less well with specialized trade. or welding, it is hard to get into that. there are traits that we need to do better on. i would be happy to hear from rhonda specifically on something we could add to that. >> good morning, supervisors. we had 153 total hires for our first-year local hire. and as just a bid, 73 were on puc projects. the majority of those new hires went to labor this time. that has a lot to do with the mix on the projects more than anything. as we move forward a your to and have more diversity of projects, the year two is where we have the largest dollar allocation for the project. he will see that branch out. the mix that is reported here is not out of th

chairperson campos: commissioner avalos? vice chair avalos: thank you. using the word disenfranchised, though, is problematic for me. they actually voted. >> correct. vice chair avalos: the vote was counted. >> correct. vice chair avalos: just the person they voted for didn't get elected. >> what i would argue is the system didn't allow them to choose as many people as they may have wanted to. vice chair avalos: in some cases people didn't want to choose more? >> there are cases where you have people who only chose one person. that was their choice to vote for only one and therefore no one would consider that an error or a problem within the system but there are some people and i'm one of them, i voted for multiple candidates in a race and my ballot -- i'm not going to say who i voted for but my ballot may or may not have been thrown out based on the fact that i only had three choices and if i had four, six, seven or more, i may have gotten to the final two and had a final choice in the matter so maybe disenfranchise is a harsh term and one i will watch

chairperson campos: great. thank you. another one-year extension. any public comment on this item? seeing none, public comment is closed. motion by commissioner avalos, seconded by commissioner olague. if we can take that without objection? item 8. madam clerk: item no. 8 is public comment. chairperson campos: any member of the public who would like to speak on any item within the jurisdiction of lafco not otherwise on the agenda. seeing none, public comment is done. item 9. madam clerk: item no. 9 is future agenda items. chairperson campos: colleagues, any future agenda items? any member of the public would like to speak? seeing none, public comment is closed. last item. madam clerk: last item isa, jowrnt. chairperson campos: meeting adjourned. thank you, everyone, and have a good weekend. thank you to staff and to the clerk for their good work.captie national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- >> item number four, approval of the april 17 regular mee.

avalos: ok. i'll follow up with mr. fried about that, too. thank you. chairperson campos: and one suggestion is that depending on where the additional information that mr. fried collects gets us, it may be that, commissioners, that you decide we want to go and get an expert to come out and analyze the data and provide further comment. and mr. fried, one thing that i would say is that obviously the suggestions you're getting here, it may be that commissioners after the meeting think of additional points that they should always feel free to contact you. >> absolutely. i'm always available for anything else. chairperson campos: ok. thank you. why don't we open it up to public comment. thank you, mr. fried, for your good work on this. please come forward. >> good afternoon, again, commissioners. eric brooks, representing san francisco green party and the local grass roots organization, our city. it's really, really exciting to see this preliminary report because it shows exactly what advocates of rank choice voting have always said, which is that voter participation is

chairperson chu: before you go into that, supervisor avalos. supervisor avalos: redevelopment was founded around job readiness, about removing barriers to employment. i would like to explore the possibility of puc helping to cover some of those costs, especially as we are preparing work force members to enter puc projects to help, perhaps, not replace the loss of funding. we need to be sure we're moving forward on projects with local residents. >> we would be happy to work with you to make sure that all of the money is going to the right opportunities. supervisor avalos: thank you. >> on local access accomplishments, we are in compliance with local asset -- local assets -- local access ordnances. many come to the program right now, some directly, but they also come to our people input -- in customer service. not a lot of response is this last year, so we are still reaching out to asking what we can do better for those who need his services. we have translated all are important birchers into -- brochures and signage into spanish and chinese. whe

chairperson chu: there is no foundation our funding flows through your department budget to pay for the contract? >> that is correct. supervisor avalos: the school is actually a really great as a part of the jail. excuse me. my voice is really shot today. i am wondering -- is a school representing other jails around the state? is it a rare thing we have in san francisco? >> we were one of the first to do a charter high-school in the jails. it is now being replicated. they are representing some of this in l.a. county. i do not think they are doing this inside the jail's. at any one time in san francisco, we have about two wondered 50 people enrolled in going to school diligently. chairperson chu: there are no questions at this time from the committee, because the information we have been presented with is not what we are looking for. we were looking for much more detail, with regards to some of the major areas we have spoken of. for me in particular, budget related with realignment, we had expected we might see 300 plus additional individuals. we have budgeted for that expected population. now, we are out roughly 200 plus you guys hav

avalos: i would support a recommendation. i think that might best take place in the public safety committee. supervisor kim: that can be referred to the public safety committee. chairperson chu: i would like to see that, given the investment into a substation, which is counter to the conventional wisdom of having folks out there and trying not to have as many assets to have to maintain. i guess that would be an amendment to the recommendations to allow the report. i would say six months after the substation is open to give time to allow for experience to be had. in addition to the six month check-in, the department ought to look at the base level of crime statistics so that we have something to compare it to. i would request a go to the public safety committee. i think that is appropriate. we will test that amendment. can we do that without objection? thank you. before we go on to the next item, we are going to take a quick five-minute break. thank you. chairperson chu: welcome back to the budget and finance subcommittee. we just took a quick recess. we have been in session since 10:00 this morning. we are going to continue. we have a few items on the agenda. we still ha

chairperson chu: good morning, and welcome to the regular meeting of the budget and finance committee. i'm joined by supervisor: shortly and -- i'm joined by supervisor kim and supervisor wiener and supervisor avalos. supervisor cohen will be joining shortly. >> please silence all electronic devices. documents should be submitted to the clerk. item two will be withdrawn from its risers' agenda unless otherwise stated. >> chairperson chu: will you cal item one, two, three. >> item number one, proposed budget and an annual appropriation ordinance for selected departments, as of may 1st, 2012, fiscal years ending june 30th, 2013 and june 30th, 2014. item number two, proposed annual salary ordinance for selected departments, fiscal years ending june 30th, 2013 and june 30th, 2014. item number 3, proposition "j" contract/certification of specified contracted-out services previously approved for enterprise departments. irresolution concurring with the comptroller certification that services previously approved can be performed by private contractor for a lower cost than similar work. item -- aye. -- chairperson chu: would you also call item number four? >> item number four, operating $587,756,000 for wa