it was the murder of inmate john derek chamberlain. it occurred in october. and it occurred over in d cube when the inmates drug chamberlain behind a privacy wall and out of view from the guard's station and, you know, savagely beat him to death. he was incarcerated for what we would consider a low-level sex-related offense. possession of child pornography. there's an inmate culture here that crimes against children are viewed as something that's rather despicable. so those inmates are commonly targeted for violence. but the reality in 2006 was we just didn't have the housing space or we were trying to juggle our inmate population to put him in a position. so what we did with him is we told him, you know, don't talk about your charges, don't talk about the crimes that you may have done or committed, you know, try and fit in, be nondescript. >> petrovich claims it wasn't the inmates who initially targeted chamberlain but two deputies who are no longer with the department. >> the cops had pulled me out and told me. they said hit him from the neck down and, you

inmates drug chamberlain out of view from the guard station and savagely beat him to death. he was incarcerated for what we would consider a low-level sex-related offense, possession of child pornography. there's an inmate culture here that crimes against children are viewed as something dispickable. those inmates are commonly targeted for violence, but the reality in 2006, we didn't have the housing space, we were trying to juggle our inmate population to put him in a position so what we did with him was we told him, you know, don't talk about your charges, don't talk about the crimes that you may have done or committed, try and fit in and be nondisscript. >> he claims it wasn't the inmate that is targeted chamberlain, but two deputies. >> cops pulled me out and told me, hit him from the neck down. didn't say kill him. never said kill him, just said go beat him up. because he's a pervert. >> a later investigation was unable to confirm that the deputies told the inmates about chamberlain's charges. >> but what came out of the investigation was a realization that this informa

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if i remember correctly it was chamberlain the appeaser who went to munich?>> right, right, right. >> chamberlain, no? and churchill was against appeasement. but he wasn't prime minister. he became prime minister later. other than that minor detail, the comparison is perfectly valid and perfectly relevant, and all of the mexican people understood it perfectly. [laughter] >> i'm sure -- >> well, of course. >> i'm sure they felt much better after that. >> no, no, they were fine. at the end, the british beat the nazis, and we'll beat these guys too, and it'll only take so many thousands -- >> i know there's a lady here, but juarez does not seem to be a reaction to anything the president did. i mean, this is zetas against gulf cartel, juarez cartel against -- [inaudible] these are decisions made by drug traffickers against each other in which civilians are being caught up, and in the which the complicity of a great number of authorities is also an enormous factor. but do you think it's a direct result, actually, of a decision to go after them? >> in the next issu

i'm not going to be a, you know, will chamberlain or gene simmons and put numbers on.f i had a good time, i can say i think everybody around me has had a good time. i don't think anybody's walked away from the party being wild and saying i feel weird or used or that was dirty or something was wrong or bad. it might be dirty fun but at the same time, there's an element of clean to it. >> i like that. you are unashamedly a rocker. you like behaving bad. it's what rock stars do, right? >> i like who i am. i support i'm a crazy, wild dude. there's enough information to support i'm a single father that's been a stand-up guy in the community and i'm private about that stuff. it's on both sides. >> is there anything you regret? >> no. >> nothing? >> nothing. >> that's quite a statement. >> you know, i'm not into losing. so, i would never pick a battle i'm not going to win. whether it's getting older in life or having regrets or anything else. i find the good in it all. >> how do you feel about that? >> great. >> you like it? >> i love it. >> why? >> i can't fight it. i'm not

whenever anybody watches nba tv or -- they always flashback in a flashback to wilt chamberlain and bill russell but that is the only people they really flashback to. those guys didn't come into the league until closer to 1960, so what happens to these guys that played between 1950 in 1960? all of these guys. there weren't a lot of them. there was just a handful, but these guys that were allowed to play, they weren't allowed to play their game. they were allowed to score. remember my father telling me one time that he was not allowed to score the ball. what do you mean? i thought was the name of the game. let's look back into time. all the franchise players between 1950 and 1960 were white. >> how much did your dad make when he joined the nba? >> $6000. >> wow. do you think the zen bri stars today with all their playing and commercials are grateful for people like andy johnson? >> i don't think they are because they don't know. >> how could they not know? >> the story is not out there. even my book, this was a self-published project but it is a matter of getting it one person at a time.

later on in life i shall will chamberlain's hand but i remember malcolm's hand. one of the most powerful groups i ever experienced. like you can pick up a flower and point down a road with it and the strength of that hand and his integrity has lived with me all these many years. i knew ahead manning parable very well at the same time. .. >> and we've come up with a book tentatively titled "by any means necessary be" looking at the commentaries and critiques and reviews around manning's book. and just looking at going over these reviews and be everything and trying to gather the impressions of people like peniel joseph, dr. burrows is also going to be a part of this particular effort, and it's an attempt, zaheer, to keep this dialogue going. i think it's a very important discussion. those of you who may have seen this morning's new york times in terms of erasing, a possibility of reopening this case and looking at some people who for according to manning have escaped their prosecution, and some people who were unjustly accused who had nothing at all to do with tha

later on in life i shall will chamberlain's hand but i remember malcolm's hand. one of the most powerful groups i ever experienced. like you can pick up a flower and point down a road with it and the strength of that hand and his integrity has lived with me all these many years. i knew ahead manning parable very well at the same time. .. one to point out the positive aspects. for me i think that what we are going to try to do with this upcoming book is kind of sort that out of it. put 100 reviews from this book. i've had a chance to read most of them and working with dr. ron >> and daniels we have come up with a book titled by the means mea necessary looking at the theersations and reviews and critiques around his book andngr looking at a going over theng reviews and everything and trying to gather the impressions of people with knowledge josephe will be part of the i think i ni saw dr. burrows come in and is coming to be a part of this particular effort. and it's an attempt as i here to keep this zaheer, to keep this dialogue going. i think it's a very important

i remember it was chamberlain who went to munich and churchill was against the appeasement but he wasn't prime minister. other than that minor detail -- >> perfectly relevant and the people understood it perfectly. >> we will beat these guys, too. it will take only so many cells and. >> it doesn't seem to be a reaction to anything calderon did order please state direct reaction in a direct comparison. this is the cartel. these are decisions made by drug-traffickers against each other which civilians are being caught up and the complexity of some of the authorities is also an enormous factor but do you think it is a direct result of the decision to go after them? >> the next issue that comes out in the ten days or so there's an article who correlates the numbers of deaths, kidnappings, etc.. >> the giant police military operations. is that there's a perfect correlation town by town, state-by-state. the violence goes up dramatically. >> violence going up before they arrive. >> apparently he says you have a stable levels but rising perhaps it skyrockets. i've seen parts of the peace that co

we want to take an -- do we want to take the neville chamberlain route that kicks that can pass the election, or do we want to take the hard road, the winston churchill road says that we're going to fight on the beaches, we're going to fight you in the beaches, we're on the fight you in the air, to make structural places -- structural changes to how washington, d.c. operates. to ensure the american people that we want to change business as usual here in d.c.. and now we have this plan which will ensure the american people that we're going to meet the needs of all we think are the most crucial in this country, to let them understand that we're going to take care of your knees while we work out the long term solutions to the problems that we face. washington is looking for a deal, america is looking for solutions. >> thank you, everybody. any questions? >> bayh these obligations more important than other legal obligations? >> for the reasons that we cited. many of us believe that it would be very imprudent to choose to default on our debt for specific things. the economic chaos that would insu

that doesn't mean i see a neville chamberlain here. what that means is when you have an expansionist power that is making claims that it owns land in disputed areas and is provoking these other countries through the use of military force, you are reaching the edge of a country unilaterally claiming sovereignty over areas that require multilateral solutions. that is not healthy. it's not healthy internationally. this region historically has been a very volatile region, and the united states is the most important ingredient in making sure that these issues are resolved multilaterally and without the use of force. i -- again, i strongly hope that our secretary of state will reinforce the comments that she made last year to this effect, that the united states does have a vital interest in resolving these issues in a multilateral way, just as we do, by the way, in resolving the issues with respect to the may congress mek. rather than having a strong, powerful country insisting only on bilateral adjustments with these countries. we are the e

and so do we want to take the easy route, the chamberlain route of appeasement of passing a clean debt ceiling that kicks the can pass the election which is what the president wants, or do we want to take the hard road, the winston churchill rosa said we will fight you at the city, fight you in the air to make structural changes to the way this placement of washington, d.c., operates. we passed cut, cap and balance which makes us real structural changes to ensure that american people that we want to change business as you here in d.c. now we have this plan will ensure the american people will meet the needs of really what we think are the most crucial in this country. to a piece of the american people and let them understand that we will take care of their needs while we work out a long-term solution to the problems that we face. washington is looking for a deal. america is looking for a solution. >> thanks everybody. any questions? >> why are these obligations more important than the other legal obligations of the u.s. government? >> for the reasons we cited during the comments. first

so we want to take the easy route in the middle chamberlain route of appeasement in the queen debt ceiling that kicks the can past of the election which is the president wants, or do we want to take the hard way that winston churchill route that says we are going to fight you on the beaches and in the air to make structural changes we passed the cut cap and balance to ensure the american people we want to change business as usual and the needs of really what we think are the most crucial in this country to appease the american people and let them understand we are going to take care of your needs while we work out the long term solution to the problems that we face. washington was looking for a deal. america is looking for a solution. >> thinks of righetti. any questions? >> why are these obligations more important than the other legal obligations of the government? >> for the reasons we signed during the comment. first of all many of us believed it would be very important to choose to default on our debt for the kind of economic path that could ensue. the social security is simply a very