senator chambliss, is he a traitor? should he be tried as a traitor back in this country?nd what do you think is next for him? how hard is it going to be to get him back to face justice? >> well, it depends on exactly what he's charged with and the process as followed by the prosecutorial team. i'm going to leave it to them to decide whether or not he ought to be charged with treason, but as i said earlier this week, if he's not a traitor, then he's pretty darn close to it. and as far as getting him back here, he needs to look an american jury in the eye and explain why he has disclosed sources and methods that are going to put american lives in danger. i mean, there's no question about it. we know now that because of his disclosure that the terrorists, the bad guys around the world are taking some different tactics and they know a little bit more about how we're gathering information on them, and i think it's important that we bring him to justice. >> are you skeptical, senator udall, of the government's claims, the head of the nsa saying this has done real damage, that i

isn't that true, senator chambliss? >> no question about it.ery involved in the aftermath of september 11th as chairman of the house intelligence subcommittee on terrorism. and congresswoman jane harman from california, we did an investigation and found out exactly that, that nsa did not take advantage of the technology that is out there today, and had they done so, we'll never be able to say that we could have prevented 9/11 from happening, but certainly we weren't doing the things that we were capable of doing, to try to make sure that these bad guys don't have all the tools, and that we utilize the tools that we have to figure out what they're doing, what they're planning, and that we're able to interrupt and disrupt them. we've done that time and time again. i hope we're going to be able to be able to give the american public examples of those over the next several days. but the fact is we know we've done that utilizing these tools. >> is there something that the public that does not know yet that you can share that's actually been disrupte

now, we don't doubt that saxby chambliss cares deeply about this issue. he's clearly as devoted to supporting the women who serve in our wars as he was once devoted to not having to serve in that war he supported. but then, he had to go and say this. i'm going to quote. the young folks who are coming into each of your services are anywhere from 17 to 22 or 23. gee, whiz, the hormone level created by nature sets in place the possibility for these types of things to occur so we've got to be very careful how we address it on our side. okay. let's get beyond the fact that the senator has seemingly no scientific understanding of human biology. let's overlook the fact there are millions of men in the military in their late teens early 20s who manage every day to not rape people. let's move past the concern that there is a senator in a congressional hearing on military sex crimes saying the words gee whiz. it turns out these guys are old enough to handle guns but not their own pistols. the senator doesn't seem to realize rape has nothing to do with desire. but i

vice chair of the intelligence committee, saxby chambliss of georgia will be here, as well as democratic senator mark udall, a skeptic of these programs. and general michael head heyden who formerly ran the area. "lincoln unbound," all ahead. >>> a worldwide phenomenon about to kick off right here in washington. that's still ahead. [ male announcer ] the new subway® $4 lunch is for everyone.

senator saxby chambliss explained he has a theory why this problem exists. >> the young folks that areeach of your services are anywhere from 17 to 22 or three. gee, whiz, the hormone level created by nature sets in place the possibility for these things to occur. >> the hormone level created by nature -- why we have 17, 22, 23-year-old rapers, gropers and creeps, these crazy kids with their crazy kid hormones. kids like the 41-year-old air force officer arrested for sexual assault last month. his job in the air force was running the sexual assault prevention program. kids like the sergeant in west point who joind in 1990, at least in his 40s, charged with secretly videotaping women in various states of undress in the bathroom and elsewhere. kids like the army sergeant at fort hood accused of assaulting another officer and running a prostitution ring. before that, he was a sexual abuse educator. kids like the 50-year-old brigadier general in the 82nd airborne division, second in command, charged with forceable sodomy and other accusations of sexual misconduct. in ten months, one guy in

. >>> senator saxby chambliss bliss, republican from georgia is not running for re-election.for re-election next year but is not going to be on the ballot, decided to retire from the united states senate. that means his performance today in the united states senate won't be used against him in the context of an election, at least not in the context of his own election. today there was an historic gathering in the senate of the chiefs of every branch of the united states military, and there in a sea of medals and ribbons and starched collars, the senate armed services committee held a hearing on the very large and very bad sexual assault problem in our nation's military. almost 30,000 cases of unwanted sexual contact just last year. senator saxby chambliss explained he has a theory why this problem exists. >> the young folks that are coming into each of your services are anywhere from 17 to 2 two or three. gee, whiz, the hormone level created by nature sets in place the possibility for these things to occur. >> the hormone level created by nature why we have 17, 22, 23-year-ol

what is your reaction to saxby chambliss who said this earlier today?young folks that are coming in to each of your services are anywhere from 17 to 22 or 23. gee wiz. the hormone level created by nature sits in place the possibility for these types of things to occur. >> what is your reaction, sir, to an individual like that suggesting that the sexual crime of rape can somehow be justified by the raging hormones occurring in a young man's body? >> well, some of his friends believe if a person, if a young woman is being raped, that she can avoid pregnancy by having the body to reject these type of things. i don't know how badly we men folks have been raised in terms of regarding women as an inferior person, but you can see that some of this is hard for certain people to get rid of, and there's just no excuse to violate a person's body regardless of the hormones. and if you follow that to its illogical conclusion, it could even get worse than that. but we don't really need that type of thinking for a serious problem that the military is facing now. those

what he specifically wants saxby chambliss is a no-fly zone. the administration tonight ruled that out at least for now and that's not making chambliss happy. take a listen. >> we now know the chemical weapons have been used for almost a year by the syrian regime. we have done nothing. so i think it's time that we act in a very serious way. if a no-fly zone is what they decided to do, then i'm sure our military is taking right preparations for carrying out a successful operation and i will support that. >> so when will we hear from the president? white house officials are saying to us tonight that he has the g 8 submit in northern ireland next week. meeting with allies like the french the british and others. consulting with them behind closed doors and publicly telling the world what the are the next steps. >> shepard: options have been described as potentially all bad. might u.s. intervention make things worse would the russians join in on the side of the syrian government? could the conflict expand across the region? jonathan hunt's report on

we were talking about saxby chambliss's comments about oh they are just frisky.n now, which made the men of fox news no [ censor bleep ] >> ape dump. >> stephanie: yeah it's a world with lou dobbs. ♪ [ inaudible ] ♪ ♪ here i sit lou's [ inaudible ] ♪ >> nice. >> stephanie: thank you, rocky mountain mike. little ditty. by the way i read this on my way to san diego, because michael tomasky, fine american who i want to date and kiss and marry, in "the daily beast," this says everything about the economy. it is increasingly clear the president has steered the country back from the brink and exposed the lie of conservative economics. and the fact that he can do this against this level of obstruction is incredible in my opinion. this friday morning we're getting jobs numbers. he writes in recent numbers, they should be pretty good. >> yeah but it's all chicked making the money so it doesn't count. >> stephanie: so noted. the numbers been higher than predicted. which is exactly what rush limbaugh did. >> well, my friends [ mumbling ] . >> it doesn't really matter what h

chambliss: certainly. mr. reid: i ask unanimous consent that the statement of the senator from georgia not appear interrupted in the record. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. reid: and i do appreciate his courtesy very much. i ask unanimous consent that notwithstanding the rule 22 at 11:30 tomorrow morning, june 27, the senate proceed to executive session to consider calendar number 179, anthony foxx, to be secretary of transportation, that there be two minutes for debate, equally divided in the usual form, following the use or yielding back of that time the senate proceed to vote with no intervening action or debate on the nomination, the motion to reconsider be considered laid maid and laid on the table, there be no intervening action or debate, and no further motion be in order and any related statements printed in the record and president obama be immediately notified of the senate's action and the senate resume legislative session. the presiding officer: is there objection? without objection.

senator chambliss, your reaction to the news today?ink it's time that the president came out and said that we now know and because we validated it over the last several monies that bashar al assad has in fact used chemical weapons against his own people in syria, as well as against the opposition rebels. when the president said that was a red line, i wish that as soon as that had been validated that he would have stepped up and said the united states is not going to stand by and see more innocent people in syria get slaughtered, but i am glad that he's stepping up right now. and as senator mccain said, maybe the final decision has not been made relative to arming the rebels. that has to be done very carefully, but we have a pretty good idea of who the folks are that we want to keep armed o out -- arms out of the hands of, brianna. the intelligence community knows who those are, the military community knows. if the decision is to put lethal arms in the hands of the rebels, it can be done in a very juice dish -- judicious way. >> senator

chambliss is suggesting it is not good enough for him. he complained the u.s. has known for almost a year that chemical weapons were likely to have been used and he said quote we have done nothing. republicans saying they need decision soon because the situation is deteriorating. mccain and graham added this is long overdue and urging the president to take the step of arming the rebels. all of this happening after president obama got pressure from an unlikely source to intervene more directly in syria. that source being democrat bill clinton. hours after word leaked about a closed door event where bill clinton ripped president obama's approach to the crisis in syria sources try to claim mr. obama is fine with the comments. >> he welcomes the input of every individual out there who has perspective on a situation like this, absolutely. >> clinton attended a forum tuesday night in new york with republican john mccain, a fierce critic of mr. obama for what he says is 2 1/2 years of drift on syria as the slaughter escalated. two sources confirm a political report th

dianne feinstein, saxby chambliss have come out in support of the program. harry reid. right?rybody is out to chill. this is nothing new. the white house defends this. the executive branch, the legislative branch and the judicial branch are all saying no big deal. >> true, and it's interesting the president clearly has defenders on this. but here is what the critics say. they say the executive branch is doing this. they go to this fisa court. they have made 1,788 requests to the fisa court to do this. guess how many times the fisa court has said no? >> not once. >> not once. if you are looking to the judicial to be an independent oversight of the executive request, it doesn't look like they are doing that. then you go to the congress and you do have serious and respected members of congress saying that they have been very alarmed by this. ron wyden of oregon has been talking about this. >> and mark eudall of colorado. >> these are serious peek talking about this. they talked in the past in the most cryptic ways because they were prohibited from confirming or releasing what was

being for it. >> well, but chambliss and feinstein with both on the senate intelligence committee., so that is probably why they are for this. >> stephanie: moving to tamp down public outroar, the nation's top intelligence official is declassifying key details about the program while insisting the efforts to collect phone records were legal, limited in scope as necessary, to detect terrorist threats. on annen usual statement last night, denounced leaks of highly classified documents, and called the disclosure of a program that targets foreigner's internet use reprehensible, and another program with would change america's enemy's behavior and make it harder to understand their intentions. now this encompasses leaks as well. which there is already debate about to what degree we prosecute leaks. saxby chambliss of georgia. >> this has been going on for seven years. >> stephanie: that's why you are not hearing people in congress necessarily scream. they knew about this. senator dyne -- dianne feinstein. >> this is renewed every three months. they must go into court, and this is that re

saxby chambliss, the top republican on the intelligence committee, said "if it's not" treason, "it'sretty damn close." snowden's whereabouts actually now unknown, and he may even have left hong kong, where he had been staying in a hotel for weeks. lawmakers and federal officials want to know how a private contractor with limited experience and an apparent lack of formal education had access to such sensitive material. it's also shining a spotlight on the government's use of outside companies to deal with national secrets. get this number, 1.4 million people hold top-secret clearances, one-third of them private contractors. still, new polling shows the american people are generally in favor of clandestine programs like this. according to a "washington post"/pew poll, 62% favor and 56% say the phone-tracking program is acceptable. but more than half of those surveyed believe the government should not monitor e-mail to prevent terrorist attacks. >>> some other news to get to, starting with former south african president nelson mandela still in the hospital for a fourth day. the country'

experiences within the military and you know when i hear things like this recently georgia senator chambliss called on the military to do more to crack down on sexual assault but then followed up by saying this and i want to play this for you ok. your own folks that are coming to each of your services. anywhere from seven to twenty two to three with. the level of the hormone level created by nature. sets. employees the possibility for these types of. so i mean how can the rate in the military ever and if elected official. continue to spout the notion that rape or sexual abuse is just a case of normal men unable to contain their hormones. that's the whole problem that's what we're at that's basically what's been happening within the military as well is there minimizing the crimes and because the commander is the one that makes the decision he he or she usually knows the big i'm in the perpetrator they're choosing victims that are young because they don't have any rank and they don't have any credibility compared to those that are doing each crimes i mean each one of my perpetrators had like e

the very curious remarks that have been made by some of the senators one of them senator chambliss for example is no one has made a complaint about what is being done but obviously people have not made complaints because they've absolutely no idea that the material that they're putting forth through service through social media for example actually being tapped into by the analysts say the national security agency and the officials of the administration claimed quite different from the bush administration but what george bush jr did was essentially a case of warrantless surveillance so there was no warrant it was subpoenaed and stake in on the house and then what do you about an administration has done this taken it affectively to another level to example using such access to protect america act two thousand and seven and the fisa amendments act two thousand nates we're talking about extensive surveillance. across the atlantic details of the surveillance not cause shock with the officials demanding clarity over what they call the monstrous allegations of total monitoring brussels has l

that state's seat is up next year, hold by saxby chambliss.a heavily republican state. there's a lot of ambitious republican politicians angling to succeed him. if you want to succeed saxby chambliss, you first have to win the republican primary, in georgia, where it's extra conservative, especially on cultural issues. one of the republicans running is congressman paul brown. same congressman paul brown who a week after president obama was elected in 2008 compared him to hitler and suggested obama would try to create a marxist dictatorship. the paul brown this week who voted against a republican bill in the house to ban abortions after 20 weeks. brown had been a co-sponsor, but when the bill was amended to include exceptions for rape and incest, he took to the house floor to demand his name be taken off it. that was monday. on tuesday, a day later, another georgia senate candidate, who is also a member of the house, republican congressman phil beginning gingry put on his own show. his message, we should teach gender issues in school. >> part o

experiences within the military and you know when i hear things like this recently georgia senator chambliss called on the military to do more to crack down on sexual assault but then followed up by saying this and i want to play this for you ok. young folks that are coming to each of your services. from the twenty two three with. the level the hormone level created by nature. sets. employees the possibility for these types of. so i mean how can the rate in the military ever and if elected official. continue to spout the notion that rape or sexual abuse is just the case of normal men unable to contain their hormones. that's the whole problem that's what we're at that's basically what's been happening within the military as well is there minimizing the crimes and because the commander is the one that makes the decision he he or she usually knows the victim and the perpetrator they're choosing victims that are young because they don't have any rank and they don't have any credibility compared to those that are doing each crimes i mean each one of my perpetrators had like eighteen years of serv

vice chair of the intelligence committee, saxby chambliss of georgia will be here, as well as democratic senator mark udall, a skeptic of these programs. and general michael head heyden who formerly ran the area. "lincoln unbound," all ahead. >>> a worldwide phenomenon about to kick off right here in washington. that's still ahead. [ male announcer ] the new subway® $4 lunch is for everyone. it's for value seekers. for spicy italian lovers. for veggie eaters. for meatball dreamers. for everyone who wants more of what they love. the new $4 lunch. a 6 inch sub and 21 ounce drink. tons to choose from. all day every day. [ female announcer ] it balances you... [ water crashing ] ...it fills you with energy... and it gives you what you are looking for to live a more natural life. in a convenient two bar pack. this is nature valley... delicious granola bars made with the best ingredients in nature. nature valley. nature at its most delicious. >>> here are some stories we'll be following in the week ahead. the g-8 summit begins tomorrow in northern ireland. president obama leaves to lead top in

with us, two key voices from the senate intelligence committee, the republican vice chair, saxby chambliss of georgia, a supporter of the government's dragnet, and a prominent skeptic, colorado democrat mark udall. then, our "roundtable" on the broader questions raised by the leaks. is snowden a hero or a traitor? how much political damage has been done? and is this the dawn of a new age of big brother? >>> and good sunday morning. as the president prepares to depart this evening for the g-8 summit in northern ireland, global issues are certainly taking center stage. overnight in iran, celebrations in the streets after moderate hassan rohani was elected president. we'll be talking about that. quite a different scene in turkey. riot police used tear gas and clubs to clear antigovernment protesters from a square there. >>> and news out of jordan this morning where king abdullah warns the kingdom is ready to fight any threat to its security from the growing conflict in neighboring syria, a sign that that conflict could spill over its borders. and the conflicf

experiences within the military and you know when i hear things like this recently georgia senator chambliss called on the military to do more to crack down on sexual assault but then followed up by same vicious and i want to play this for you ok. young folks that are coming to each of your services. from seven to twenty two three with. the level of the hormone level created by nature. sets. employees the possibility for these types of her so i mean how can the rape in the military ever end if elected official. continue to spout the notion that rape or sexual abuse is just the case of normal men unable to contain their hormones. that's the whole problem that's what we're at that's basically what's been happening within the military as well is there minimizing the crimes and because the commander is the one that makes the decision he he or she usually knows the victim and the perpetrator they're choosing victims that are young because they don't have any rank and they don't have any credibility compared to those that are doing each crimes i mean each one of my perpetrators had like eighteen y

types of things to >> fellow republican congressman mike turner issued a press release attacking chamblissaying it is simple. criminals are responsible for sexual assaults, not hormones. perpetuating this line of thinking does nothing to help change the culture of our military. lou: thank you. jennifer griffin, fox news national security correspondent. new developments tonight in the benghazi scandal. former ambassador thomas pickering giving a lengthy closed-door deposition before the house oversight committee on his investigation into last year's terrorist act. republicans argue his review of the fact the nep to benghazi was flawed because pickering and his co-author did not interview high-ranking officials, including then secretary of state hillary clinton. today the ambassador defended his review and committed to an open-hearing on the matter within two weeks. bill clinton first urged his wife to run against an incompetent, incumbent president. then he wanted to negotiate for an endorsement. ed plank and author of the best-selling book, the amateur, on the clinton-obama relationship. a

with us, two key voices from the senate intelligence committee, the republican vice chair, saxby chambliss

said that that kind of thinking helps perpetuate the problem. >> bipartisan criticism for saxby chamblisst how first lady michelle obama handled a heckler at a fundraising event in washington on tuesday? during her prepared remarks, a woman started interrupting mrs. obama. the first lady shot right back at the protester, telling her she could either, quote, listen to me or you can take the mike. but i'm leaving. you all decide. you have one choice. the protester, a gay rights activist, was quickly escorted out of the room. >> a violent altercation between a washington state woman and two police officers captured on a 911 call. as 36-year-old meghan graham was being arrested, she called police claiming an officer was brutally attacking her. the entire scuffle was recorded by the police dispatcher. >> 911. >> i'm being attacked by this man. he says he's a police officer. >> reporter: for washington state resident meghan graham, what began as a routine traffic stop with federal way police turned into what she calms a brutal assault. >> it escalated into what the heck happened? >> reporter: a