first to my left, ray chaney, cal fire incident battle xwrupb chief. to his left, colonel laura yeager, 40th combat aviation brigade. to her left, commander steve everett, to his left lieutenant colonel dana, marine corps installation west. thank you. let me go ahead and start off by talking a little bit and just going back over some of the discussions yesterday that i think are going to play to this discussion. admiral beeman talk a little bit yesterday about capabilities and vice admiral zunkoff talked about partnerships, unity of effort, unity of command. mayor lee talked about dod efforts, expertise, community efforts and as we go into all those discussions today you will see best practices applied during the 10 years from those fires. i have the pleasure of working for administrator fuget in fema headquarters. fema's role is to coordinate response between state and local governments and his focus, his direction to us really comes down it 3 things. he asks us to always plan for the worst case, the maximum of the maximums and it's go to see the depa

i don't often work with chief chaney in southern california, about a month ago we had 9 aircraft at our peak working fires throughout northern california if that answers your question. >> any other responses? >> i wanted to touch -- can you hear me now? i wanted to touch on that last topic as far as the command control because what we have here in the marine corps is similar to the navy. we have the installation, the regional installation command and also partners with the operational foresite. we allow the operational foresight, we maintain those but then we coordinate, cooperate, with the operational foresight once the call comes in for support. so we're able to do that obviously through memorandum of understandings and we have agreements and our wing operating orders allow for the fact the operational control, at least under operational response, maintains with the operators. the third aircraft wing maintains operational control but we send our operatives out to be controlled by the civic sight. we're comfortable with that and that's matured a lot in the last couple years. >> talked

meanwhile the hunger strike in guantanamo bay has no end in sight one hundred of one hundred sixty chaney's are starving themselves twenty three of those people are now being force fed by personnel this is happening despite president obama's renewed pledge to close down the detention facility in cuba there are a lot of questions right now in criticism over why president obama obama has made these promises time and time again but has actually failed to follow through some believe that the president's hands are tied by congress while our chief political commentator sam sacks shows us what measures the president can take without congress' approval. this week the hunger strike at the u.s. military detention facility in guantanamo bay grows with more than one hundred prisoners now involved in the president once again pledge to close get mo down it is not a surprise to me that we've got problems in guantanamo which is why. when i was campaigning in two thousand and seven and two thousand and eight and when i was elected in two thousand and eight i said we need to close guantanamo i continue to be

you are willing to go to court, last party that went to court about being transparent was bush and chaneyion, i think these documents help us, and if there is a legal the reason, sometimes political reasons have to trump legal reasons, when you are in an administration that should be about transparency, i pup sort president obama -- support president obama, the documents help him and need to be put out. neil: let me ask you something about crisis and responding. you get in front of them, i am wondering now if it is almost too late, anything you say now, for example irs thing going after the reporter thing that will look in a variance with the facts that someone lied or misrepresented themselves, and then issue of people being truthful. now you have meetings with eric holder that are supposed to be off the record, this is now, pr out of control. do you think? >> well, it has been handled well from a public relations standpoint, but the irony is that i think that everyone is acted honorably, nobody i think that lied. they made mistakes. neil: but you don't know that? right? there was a time

guy even after we take these steps one issue will remain just how to deal with those good motive chaney's who we know have participated in dangerous plots or attacks but who cannot be prosecuted for example because the evidence against them has been compromised or is inadmissible in a court of law but once we commit to a process of closing get more i am confident that this legacy problem can be resolved consistent with our commitment to the rule of law and i know the politics are hard but history will cast a harsh judgment on this aspect of our fight against terrorism and those of us who fail to end imagine a future ten years from now or twenty years from them when the united states of america is still holding people who have been charged with no crime on a piece of land that is not part of our country or the current situation or we are force feeding detainees who are whole being held on hunger strike i'm willing to cut the young lady who interrupted me some slack because it's worth being passionate about is this who we are is that something our founders foresaw is that the america we wan

that was goodman, chaney, and schwerner.and so it was, i've often thought about that book by paul tillich, "love, power, and justice." >> bill moyers: "love, power, and justice." >> marshall ganz: and where he argues that power without love can never be just, but similarly love that doesn't take power seriously can never achieve justice. and that was, i think, what i learned. >> bill moyers: you've said that when you tell a story, the story becomes three stories. >> marshall ganz: yes. well, when we do public, so public narrative, is like a leadership skill of moving people to public action. so there's a story of self, which is using narrative to communicate why i've been called. so i tell stories that can communicate the values that move me. a story of us is using narrative to create a sense of the values we share as a community. and then the story of now is do they experience the challenge to those values that requires action now? so sort of three pieces. >> bill moyers: so that's what martin luther king meant when he talk

this is what aaron chaney had to say earlier on. >> they were all wrong in terms of what could be positiveeconomy. the first decisions were to raise labor on capital and capital gains and risk everything that was creating value in the economy. >> but in the end, the real issue behind this is its cost competition. and we have lost so many market shares over the past year. so the correction is correct. the problems that the tax credit, 25 billion ur rows on the table, this is too small to -- practices in the economy. >> a rather mixed report card there from our two experts. stephane, we're talking about in this morning. the labor markets have more competitiveness. this seems to be the key to steer the french economy back on track. >> yes. the average cost of labor is 34 euro 20 in france. 34 euro 20 in germany. you see the problem. and also with spain adding performance labor market now, we are facing in france a competition from southern european countries. >> and not the fact that china was stealing away business from the lack of france. france needs to have a goal to direct its focus towa

. >> i can do chaney. >> serious question. casting is so key. everybody came back.t clip you just showed, that was the first night we got together. this is an unsentimental group. everyone burst into applause. at the screen in l.a. they gave mitch about a seven-minute ovation before he talked. >> just for being mitch. >> just thank you. how i feel about you. >> tell me why people like us love this show so rabidly. what is it about the show? >> i think honestly it's the same cache your show has. it doesn't dumb down. it has a great respect for the audience. it is delivered -- >> speak for yourself but go ahead. >> it's fantastic. >> it doesn't have its hat in the hand, the same as you guys. it's great. it's kind of like, this is where we are. >> every single character has some serious deficiency. >> brian shactman. >> somebody who is scared of mika, might be you. >> just now cooling down. >> humid temperature. >> you need to see somebody. i think like 110 temperature. he's burning up. >> if it had come out after your "modern family," four or five years later, do you