the liz chaney question is part of this. i wonder if liz chaney may end up better off. if they do this on the floor and it's democrats end uptaking action, what's to stop any majority from removing any person from a committee for any reason at all. that's the slope that they are poised at the top of. >> brendan you were there when guys like steve king would become problems whether speaker ryan had to deal with them or speaker boehner. i can't believe i'm saying this but i feel like steve king was a more cooperative problem child compared to what we're seeing with marjorie taylor greene. is that the way you see things? >> kasie hit on something. kevin mccarthy is trying to see if she'll apologize. this is who she is. we shouldn't expect her to change. so much for the basis of doing this so swiftly early on in her time in congress is that it all most of it before she came to congress. people ingeorgia's 14th congressional district elected her. they knew she was like this and sent her here any way. you're going to punish someone even though their voters were well aware and

is that conversation about congresswoman chaney's role in leadership still on going? what's your reaction to those calling her to step down? mr. mccarthy: we continue to work, there's more that unites than divides us. we have dealt with that issue. we will work to get people back to school, back to work and back to health. reporter: would you support [inaudible] mr. mccarthy: i don't know what transpired there. reporter: i wanted to ask you a question about the capitol -- we've heard about capitol police, a plot to blow up the capitol in the coming weeks, how concerned are you about the security situation? and what was your level of confidence in the people charged with protecting this building and your members? mr. mccarthy: i can't thank the capitol police enough. i watch it every day, watch the number of threats rise, different points of time in elected office, we get them personally sent to us and our families an others. what i think we have to do is look at what is out there today and what's best. i do not think a mechanism of a department that only reports to a

. >> congresswoman chaney? >> that's up to cpac. i've been clear in my views about president trump and the extent to which he the things happened on january 6th. i don't think he should be playing a role. >> trump had both of them in his cross hairs today. called them out by name for not supporting him. at the same time that he was talk about the republican party being totally unified. i wonder how you scare those two things and what message that sends to other republicans who have or think of ever opposing him? >> donald trump is doing something he did effectively throughout his presidency. he would pick these kind of petty, pointless fights with specific republicans over things that didn't really matter, weren't really damaging his presidency. it was a warning shot. it was meant to convey the message that you better tow the line, be behind me or i will come after you. the question that i have is whether he still is able to make those threats as effectively now that he's out of office. given what the other people on this panel have

people like congresswoman liz chaney. he will have their names in his mouth here. he's not going be afraid to call them out. >> that i'm sure is true. thank you for that. i'm so glad to have you talking about. i'm curious your reactions to the excerpts and this one line from politico play book that reads former president trump's advisers have been agonizing on how to get him to stay on script in front of rowdy supporters cheering him on. they don't want him to rehash all the election grievances and say he won. they don't want him to say i shouldn't get blamed for the january 6th capitol riots. why would they not want him to say those things? >> you're so bad. you're so bad. this is not about what they don't want. this is about what donald trump wants. what donald trump is going to do. this is his moment. he has been radio silent since late december. this is pent up. there's no way this man walks on this stage and reads a script with thousands of people in the room not observing covid protocols, standing there screaming at him. not happening. >> i know. they don't w

. >> on that high note -- [ laughter ] >> reporter: congresswoman um chaney was amongblicmpch >>> another battle growing in washington this time over president biden's pick for budget director and her tweets attacking republicans. this morning, president biden on the brink of facing his first cabinet nomination defeat. two senate panels are delay agent vote on his pick to head the office of budget and management, neera tanden. one of her tweets compared mitch mcconnell to voldemort. >> you wrote susan collins is, quote, the worst, that tom cotton is a fraud, that vampires have more heart than ted cruz. you called leader mcconnell moscow mitch and voldemort. how did you plan to mend fences and build relationships with members of congress? >> i deeply regret and apologize for my language. >> reporter: in a tweet from 2017, she slammed senator lisa murkowski cow city for supporting then president trump's tax cuts. tanden retweeted murkowski with this, no offense but this sounds like you're high on your own supply. murkowski who said she is undecided about tanden's tweet only learned about it

but instead he betrayed us and as representative chaney said it was the greatest betrayal of a presidential oath in the history of the united states of america. the greatest. as i mentioned yesterday president trump is not even close to the proverbial citizen who falsely shouts fire in a crowded theatre. he is like the now proverbial municipal fire chief who incites a mob to go set the theatre on fire and not only reiewses to put out the fire but encourages the mob to keep going. we would hold that fire chief accountable and forbid him from that job ever again and that's exactly what must happen here. there are hundreds of millions of citizens who can be president. donald trump has disqualified himself and you must disqualify him too. just like the fire chief who sends the mob, president trump perverted his office by attacking the very constitution he was sworn to uphold. in fact, that's one reason why this free speech rhetoric of this trial is so insidious. his conduct represented the most devastating and dangerous assault by a government official on our constitution, including the first a

mieblg steel, the moment we just witnessed there, kevin mccarthy and liz chaney, i guess i give mccarthye of humor at the end. that's what donald trump will be introducing do the midterm conversation everywhere and despite what rick scott said the civil war and the gop is nowhere near over. >> i think we should start with expectations. if you look at both georgia senate races, if there had been a one-on-one head to led race and both races in november, the republican candidate would have won. what happened after that with the president sowing poisonous lies, convincing voters not to go to the polls and control of a united states senate as a result. the other thing that you talked about here with the suburban counties in georgia is they are growing fast. we have energized people with trump candidacy and feel like they live in areas that are left behind. we need to get back to a reagan-esque sense this is party of optimism. this is party of new americans and growing and expanding and looking for that sort of change and opportunity that has defined the republican party. >> stephanie, when i

going to use it as a way to punish those rublicans who he thinks have wronged him like respective liz chaneym wyoming or maybe he sits on it and doesn't use any of it for any other candidate. so there are still a lot of unknowns. and we don't know what we're talking about in terms of the political environment, a year or two from now. i think that sets the tone more than anything else in terms of the kinds of candidates that become successful are the candidates that fit that moment. judy: well, we like you both to know exactly what's going to happen here in a year or two but we'll wait until next week. i do want to turn you both here in the minutes we have left to -- to what's happening with covid relief. the house was moving ahead with -- with some of president bind's proposal on covid relief. how much does it matter whether he is able to get republican votes or not? whether this ends up being and all-democratic measure? >> i'm not sure it ultimately does matter. will voters hold it again him that their unemployment benefits last. if the covidaccine rollout goes well. or if their kids are ac

but chaney is getting backup from mcconnell. >> she's one of the smartest people i have ever known. we need more. so that's my view of liz cheney. >> reporter: house republicans scheduled to meet wednesday behind closed doors in what is expected to be a tense meeting as the party grapples with its internal divisions. and, so, the question tonight is what could come out of this meeting between mccarthy and green that would allow her to continue to stay on these committees that democrats want to push her out of. mccarthy is hoping that she can convince green to have some level of contrition and walk back some of these controversial statements. but, wolf, there is no sign green is heading in that direction. she remains defiant even up to the 11th hour and it seems pretty clear that this showdown is going to lead to a very tense meeting wednesday here on capitol hill with house republicans. >> yeah. she has to do a full throated apology to the american people. she has to acknowledge that what she said was stupid and wrong and awful. she has to apologize big-time if she hopes to have som

axios reporting that kevin mc mckathy traveled to florida to meet with trump and asked liz chaney to apologize for her vote to impeach trump. the wisconsin congresswoman who voted in favor of the president more than 90% of time still refuses. >> when you look at both his actions leading up to what happened on january 6th, the fact he was impeached in a bipartisan fashion. the fact that he lost the presidency, the fact we lost the senate. we have to be in a position where we can say we stand for principles. we stand for ideals. somebody who has provoked an attack on the united states capitol to prevent the counting of electoral votes which resulted in five people dying who refused to stand up immediately when he was asked and stop the violence, that's a person who does not have a role as a leader of our party going forward. >> it's clear, based on what mccarthy did that efforts are under way to keep republicans in line with the trump wing of the party. the democrats are united in bringing their case this week. here is what congressman sheila jackson lee with a preview of the evidence

it's noticeable that mccarthy has publicly been much more critical of liz chaney for voting to impeach donald trump than he has on marjorie taylor greene for what she has been doing in past few weeks and beyond that. democrats are preparing to make this a big campaign issue regardless of what happens on the floor in congress. they are pointing to the fact she will be the face of the republican party whether republicans like it coming into the mid term elections in 2022. they are betting that's a big loser for republicans in the midterm elections. >> yeah. just as you're talking, we were showing some b roll of her. she's wearing mask that said trump won. i feel the need to fact check that because he did not. many of these supporters were trying to overturn the election. michael steel, i want to show you a bit of what adam kisin ger had to say about the state of the republican party and what it means for people like him as they try to find their place in a post-trump world. let's watch a bit of that interview. we'll talk about it on the other side. >> i think the republican party has los

and there were greater numbers who wanted to go at chaney for what was widely seen as a vote of conscienceence of her view as a national security leader. mitch mcconnell and others defended her right to that vote. that, as you say, was more controversial than this. take a listen. i have senator ben sasse here talking about what you say as well, the cult of personality. >> for years, but it's not me. personality cults aren't conservative. conspiracy theories aren't conservative. lying that an election has been stolen, it's not conservative. acting like politics is a religion, it isn't conservative. let's be clear about why this is happening. it's because i still believe, as you used to, that politics isn't about the weird worship of one dude. >> libby? >> right. so senator sasse is facing a censure back home in nebraska, which is why he is saying here's what i stand for. here is what the republican party and conservatism means to me. he is not the only one. congressman kinzinger who has voted to impeach the president and is standing by that vote is also facing censure on his county level fr

reporter: the wyoming g.o.p.sen sured number three house republican lynn chaney.een building tosen sure ben sasse who had been criticizing president trump's bavor. he taped this, confronting local politicians. >> politics isn't about the weird worship of one dude. reporter: one county chair in nebraska said the trump agenda remains the party's north star. coleen brady wants sasse punished. >> nebraska voted overwhelmingly for president trump, meaning we wanted senator sasse to replect those values in d.c. reporter: senator pat too many mi facessen sure but one local party leader said it's a waste of time to go after him. sam demarco chaired the g.o.p. committee in allegheny county. >> in order to be a big tent party you have to be open to many. i want moderates to recognize they have a home here in the republican party and that they're welcome as well. reporter: bacon thinks in some places he has already won the battle for the party's future. >> at the local level the battle is over. in washington, mcconnell is the leader of the republicans in the t and is is on t

almost complete personification of those wings, as you say, the chaney wings smaller as they literally divert out of the press conference. we want to get that in as well. gene robinson, always good to have you, sir. >> good to be here, ari. >> thank you. we have our shortest break coming up. stay with us. on the program tonight, why more people are preparing for the end of the world. >>> plus, president obama's revelation about punching someone over a racist word. and next, how the law is catching up with the big lie. my report when we're back in just 30 seconds. report when wen just 30 seconds. including boise... ...and even bakersfield. yeah, we're exhausted. whew! so, tonight... i'll be eating the gyro quesadilla from...al quick stop...in... hyde park. (doorbell) excellent. and, tonight... i'll be eating the chicken pot pie from...founding farmers...in... foggy bottom. (doorbell) (giggle) oh, they're excellent. i had so many beignets i thought i was going to hurl. do ya think they bought it? oh yeah. >>> congress has been bearing down on the danger of election lies, many of which gr

chaney continues to feel the heat from her own party for voting to impeach former president trump, butge to act on them. she is an important leader in our party and in our nation. i am grateful for her service and look forward to continuing to work with her on the critical issues facing our nation. a lot going on there, joe. >> yeah, a lot going on there. kasie hunt, why don't you take us into mitch mcconnell's thinking here, speaking out in ways that the house republican leadership just simply refuses to. >> they're refusing to do it. and it's incredibly unusual for any republican leader to get involved in the other side of the capitol's business the way he's doing here. but i think it shows you just how important mcconnell thinks this is. it is after donald trump has already left office. and a lot of people that might have backed him off -- rob portman is now retiring. we'll see what he has to say about this today. they were gone because there was no one standing up for them or backing them during the trump administration itself when so many republicans refused to criticize president

chaney while saying nothing about ms. greene, it will deserve nothingness.piracy theorists and parkland truthers. mitch mcconnell came out first a couple of days ago. he had seen enough of this. now more republicans falling in yesterday. what do you make of it and what do you think house republicans will do? >> i find it really ironic, willie. marco rubio's quote was we shouldn't make conspiracy people famous. guess who is the guy that for weeks was touting conspiracy theories on the tv about the election and dominion voting machines and all of these silly conspiracy theories? none other than donald trump. who is the guy that's backing up this qanon lady? donald trump. why is kevin mccarthy afraid of her? because he's afraid of donald trump. so i find it ironic that they're fine speaking up against the qanon people but they have not been able to find the ability to speak up forcefully against the conspiracy theories that were fomented and that caused an insurrection in the nation's capitol by none other than the former president of the united states. i think