kennedy: the opponents have changeed back in world war ii we knew who we were fighting.re our money was going to a nuclear arms race this is different. >> that -- >> why more special forces not on the massive batal owner money sucking program like 535. >> a simplistic view is what you say, because, it is not just nuclear exchanges during the cold war, you had large navy issue hundred of thousand of ground troops in europe. that kept large scale conventional war from happening it of still a very real danger, with 15 or 20 years, regardless of diplomatic incentives in contrary you find yourself in war. >> the spaces ar are -- basis of bases are spilarestill open but they are h smaller we're spending more now in heist. >> no, no, real dollars we are not. if you do constant dollars based on decline. kennedy: years of research that cato institute. >> cato institute is a libertarian organization, and cherry picks data to suit their political -- but not heritage foundation. >> we have a great publication, index of military strength, firmly grounded, publicly data, methodology i