i spoke with chantelle griffin, assuming in the modem, which really seemed i am, my name is frank richardson, philadelphia got in the movement in any age, 13 or 14. we were violent towards those people because we believe there were a race we were here 1st. and this is our country being part of that movement. i got your sense of power. when i felt powerless, we got attention when i felt invisible and accepted when i talked to level life after, hey, is an organization that was founded by for a skinhead neo nazi white supremacists in the u. s. in canada. and they found each other and they knew that they wanted to help other guys get out. there's 2 parts to getting out of a violent extremist group. the 1st part is disengagement, which is where you leave the social group. and then the next part is d. radicalization where belief systems ology are removed. it was very impactful. when someone finally came along with no fear, no judgement, you heard my story did nothing to challenge it without a 2 russian girls back home after an agreement is reached with care for their with, you know, the news this