no mention of john chapman. everybody else appears to me, which leads me to believe he never went back to visit his family. so i don't know what it was. there's a bunch of possible reasons for that. anyone else please, ask up. turn on for hours. sally, yes please. >> i was kind of curious, did anybody ever do studies as far as he spent a lot of time with quakers and so, you know, being sweet and i can find has anyone ever not claim them as one of his own, but in a sense part of their community in a sense because they say with people a lot. >> there is a story somewhere. now, that was a universal who got very mad at him and threw this book down. i know the quakers wind in and out of the story but now, i don't. i never saw evidence of that. i just opened this up. that was a wonderful part about writing this but. every time you turn over a coming-of-age story to be told. there's all these persons were talking about earlier that leonie baldwin and connections johna chapman's -- john chapman's mother first cousin dis

wayne is not john chapman. we have promissory notes and we even have that wonderful trading post ledger back in warren pennsylvania that shows chapman purchased quote to too small history shortly after crossing the alleghenies with his brother nathaniel in the early 1797 but history of what? royalty, ancient roman aging greece? there is no way to know unfortunately. trying to penetrate that mystery made writing the book almost irresistible for me as dead, let's be honest the sheer weirdness of its principle character. the mid-19th century historian and ohio called chapman they the artist character in all our history and he was certainly every bit of that. i read in my book that he had the eye of the speculator, the heart of a philanthropist, the courage of their frontiersmen and the wondering instincts of a bedouin nomad. in fact he had almost self canceling nature. he wanted land that could never settle down on her. he ran a far-flung there should business and worked harder than anyone could and then he gave a

not so chapman. an article for the american heritage magazine in 18 -- 1789 it was suggested if there was a diary, he would be compared to the the great indian portraitist. i like that. it would have not been a relentless critique of the revolution, but chapman lived his critique, the nature he loved and gave himself to vibrated through his entire body. years ago, i spent a long night with the washington, d.c. emergency psychiatric response team, heroic men and women tepidding to the insane deemed institutionalized from area hospitals. most of those they treated that night were living in the city's parks, short walks from the capitol of the white house. these are women convinced they were man castrated by demons, men bane at the moon. one man told me when he talked down the street and saw the stars overhead, he was convinced each start was part of a space fleet looking to him for direction. if i turn right, they turn right. if i tern left, they turn left. what if i turn the wrong way, he said to me.

john chapman had scripture emerging along. not the bottle but swedenborg. all things in the world exists from the divine origin closed with such forms in nature as perfect their use and correspond to higher things. however it came to be, by god's hand or cosmic accident, by whatever label one comes to the challenge, secular green, planetary survival, this global of our needs someone to show us how to love it better and as he always was in life johnny appleseed is waiting out there even now, a razor thin line between present and future, man ed smith, ready to lead the way. >> you can watch this and other programs online at booktv.org. >> eleanor roosevelt's years as first lady. the author details mrs. roosevelt's involvement in politics and her transformation of the position of first lady from one that was largely unacknowledged to prominent political actor. ms. beasley takes questions for a little over an hour.

also the man who flew on a chapman's cover is charged investigators conclude their work of the disclosure of eleven russian agents in the u.s. which made a dramatic real life spy saga last summer. thanks to assess hopes for lasting peace between israel and the palestinians in our special interview. but i'll maliki the palestinian foreign affairs minister so thank you very much for joining us here on r.t. the palestinian unilateral declaration of statehood that's scheduled for september the united nations is it still on track because there have been recent noises negotiations between israelis and palestinians work out and it will be canceled well you know first of all. it wasn't our choice to go to the united nations to seek mission for the present state never to be. our intention has been always always until this moment. to get. negotiations with the israelis as a result of the negotiations the militants of them since the. pick place so. states will come as a result off negotiations of an agreement between israel and palestine this is it now since last september. there's release have been

court summons for a man who blew and chapman's cover throwing her to the walls along with ten other russian agents in the us during last year's transatlantic spy saga. and hearing business all prizes produce a stronger dollar an expectation that u.s. crude supplies to grow have more on the market's performance as well and i think that's a good. seven pm in moscow match reza good to have you with us here on r t our top story less than two days after osama bin laden was shot dead pakistan is now caught in the crosshairs of international scrutiny servers have been baffled over how the world's most wanted terrorist managed to hide just a kilometer away from the country's military academy but it's not the only uncertainty surrounding bin laden's death which marks a major milestone in the global war on terror this thing in the tail here is the increased risk of revenge attacks coming from al qaeda supporters and his art he's got a cheeky on reports the operation would have done barack obama's presidential aims any harm either. in modern math the great then better moment shrouded in secrecy as ame

and court summons for the man who blew up the chapmans cover throwing it to the wolves along with ten other russian agents in the us during those two years transatlantic spice are. you watching r t one welcome to it's a leaven pm choose day night here in moscow my name is kevin zero in on the top story tonight less than two days after some of them love them a shot dead pakistan's now caught in the crosshairs of international scrutiny observers have been baffled over how the world's most wanted terrorist managed to hide just a kilometer away from the main military academy in the country however it's not the only uncertainty surrounding bin laden's death which marks a major milestone in the global war on terror the saying in the tail here is the increased risk of revenge attacks coming from al qaeda supporters and results he's gonna hit you can report york ration one of them barack obama's presidential ambitions any harm even. in mind that the great then that a moment shrouded in secrecy as americans celebrated the killing of the nation's number one terrorist they had no other proof of

also for summons for the man who blue eyed chapman's cover for a way her to the wolves along with ten other russian agents in the u.s. during last year's transatlantic spy saga. six pm in moscow and that transit could have you with us here on r t our top story less than two days after osama bin laden was shot dead pakistan is now caught in the crosshairs of international scrutiny observers have been baffled over how the world's most wanted terrorist managed to hide just a kilometer away from the country's military academy but it's not the only uncertainty surrounding bin laden's death which marks a major milestone in the global war on terror the sting in the tail here is the increased risk of revenge attacks coming from a height of supporters of art he's got a cheeky on reports the operation won't have done barack obama's presidential. either. them on the great vendetta moment trotted in secrecy as americans celebrated the killing of the nation's number one terrorist they had no other proof of his death but the word of their president they needed to give us a big winge we can call it

and court summons for the man who blew out chapman's cover throwing her to the walls with ten other russian agents in the u.s. during last year's transatlantic spy saga. and here in business who look at how well prizes are affected by the news of a salad announce death the terrorist denies lets his swings in commodities that and more in twenty minutes. news around the world around the clock i'm match reza good to have you with us here on r t where it's five pm in moscow less than two days after osama bin laden was shot dead pakistan is now in the crosshairs of international scrutiny observers have been baffled over how the world's most wanted terror leader managed to hide away only a kilometer from the nation's military academy but it's not the only uncertainty surrounding bin laden's death which marks a major milestone in the global war on terror the sting in the tail here is the increased risk of revenge attacks from al qaida supporters he's got h.p. on reports the operation don't have done barack obama's presidential goals any harm either. the great then get him moment shrouded in secrec

two centuries before there was some positive movement, john chapman created a lifestyle of simplicityitself. a level of consumption or drive the national economy back to the system of wide practice. snuff, the occasional toole, the rear wheel or night under a rented room, the board books, the was ought earth's resources he seemed to have needed and the books he recycled fairly well. johnny didn't merely live likely in the land he barely touched it even though he walked constantly it is the gift to be simple, the gift to be free, to is the gift to come down where you ought to be it goes. and when we find ourselves in the place just write it will be in the valley of love and the light. there'll be a 42 year summary of his life. a handful of people realized what a fragile creations the earth is chapman and appleseed were there too calling nature as if she were a newborn baby and that may be the greatest gift of our own time. john chapman had scripture urging him of not only the bible but sweden all things in the world excess from the divine origin closed with such forms of nature has ena

. > alsonvit to this year' parade --anna chapman, expeed from arica for beg a russian y. [cheering] there were 20,000 troopsn parade, almostwices many as ast year and mostere wearing theew combat uniforms ratr an dress unifos. a demonstrion o the drive to modernize the armed forces. >> all things are second, third generation to regrethe only aipower on displ wer helicoers. there wereo parility aircraft on gundsf cost and safety. bbc news, mosw. >> i has bee neay twoonth since japan was devtateby a massive earthquake in tsuna. many ridents are still strulingo recover. today, a japanese utity compy agrd tohut down ather nuclear pow ant to kiloters southwest of tokyo and still betr safeguards are inlace. some of the number vicms a now rurni to school. roland bird ined group o them in a to calle iumaki. >> the tow lies in rins - ruins. even on t wall to school, childrenanno escape reminder of thearthake in tsunami. they wear fa masks. inside, thelassoms are owded. undrs of schoolsnd dtroy it along the coast a the hildren back into tho tha remain today, a welcome retn ill noal

and justice for the man who blew i have chapman's cover throwing her to the wolves along with ten other russian agents in the u.s. during last year's transatlantic sky sider. next we assess hopes for lasting peace between israel and the palestinians in our interview coming. but that happens to be at all maliki the palestinian foreign affairs minister thank you very much for joining us here on r.t. the palestinian unilateral declaration of statehood that's scheduled for september the united nations is it still on track because there have been recent noises that it negotiations between israelis and palestinians will count and it will be canceled well you know first of all. it wasn't our choice to go to the united nations to seek commission of for the present state never to be. our intention has been always called with until this moment. to get. negotiations with the israelis and as a result of the negotiations their motives of the same state. should take place so. should come as a result off negotiations of an agreement between israel and palestine this is it now since last september. isr

. >> also invited to this year's parade, ann chapman, expelled from america for being a russian spy.am here to celebrate. >> there were 20,000 troops on parade, almost twice as many as last year. and most were wearing a new combat uniforms and berets rather than dress uniforms, a demonstration of russia's drive to modernize its armed forces. the army is full of weapons like tanks, second and third generation. >> the only air power on display was helicopters. this year, there was no heavy military aircraft on grounds of cost and safety. >> you are what "bbc world news". the headlines. there have been fresh air strikes in the libyan capital of tripoli as tehe un call for a pause in hostilities to get urgent help to civilians. pakistan's prime minister has rejected claims his country helped hide osama bin laden. police and the western african state of togo say several boats have capsized killing 36 people. the boats were caught in its strong winds and torrential rain as they sailed across the lake. >> it was as dozens of mourners returned from a funeral crossing lake togo that this trag

. >> linda chapman from not hill -- nob hill. supervisor mar said he wished he had more opportunity to look at this. some of you are lawyers. i had to study the ceqa guidelines in connection with writing a support document for the appeal about live nation. it is very easy to read. it is plain english. it is very vanilla. it would be very clear to you, what they were intended to do was not to chop big hunks out of ceqa or have something handy for the planning staff. it is really four things that are common sense. -- for things that are common sense. i am not surprised the judge expects planning to return the decision to use a cadex in that case. the second thing is i used to be a civil rights specialist. i dealt with disability. one of the things that concerns people is having impediments' like this in the public right of way for people with visual impairment are using real tears. even i run into an impediment all the time, outside the theater. every time i come to it, i have to decide whether to walk into traffic or go under this

. >> linda chapman. there's no more grim practice than reusing historic buildings and nothing better for affordable housing than saving the affordable rental housing that we have that is under rent control. in the '70's and '80's, knob hill neighbors saved thousands of rental buildings from the high-rise developers who wanted to tear them down because they were essentially historic district. but the condo developer that you heard, who wants to tear down the methodist church, he sounded pathetic, didn't he? the methodist church wanted to build affordable housing. we can't. tndc is ready, david baker, mayor's office of housing and so on but he stands in the way. instead of appealing the denial of his plan to you, he sued you, mind you. the methodist church actually wanted to bailed forwardability housing. we have the ability to do that and reuse the church and have a community facility there. often it's a choice. the city of paris, for example, was torn down but retailers wanted to use it, they wanted to r

dean baker of the center for economic policy research and tim chapman -- ayn rand canova of chapman universitywe will begin with a presentation by joe gagnon and then i will introduce the other panelists after the presentation. joe gagnon a senior fellow at the peterson institute is a former visiting assistant director of the division of monetary affairs of the u.s. federal reserve board. prior to that this is the director of international finance and senior economist he has taught at the university of california's business. joe, if you can start hour were discussion of? [applause] >> is there a clicker to turn the page packs >> thanks for having me here, michael. i would like to talk about what the federal reserve can and should be doing to help restore full employment. let me just start by saying it's true that the federal reserve said its policy rate at zero, the lowest it's ever been and that is bound for reasons i won't go into. but it doesn't mean that it's all the federal reserve can do. the federal reserve monetary policy works and general by tilting the balance between savers and susp

and the man who on a chapman's cover is charged investigators concluded their work over the disclosure of eleven of russian agents in the u.s. which made for a dramatic real life spy saga last summer. thanks as promised free look into the post soviet states twenty years after the collapse of the u.s.s.r. . kiev the capital of ukraine this square is called the mind down the hub of all political upheaval since ukraine gained independence in one thousand nine hundred one translated from ukrainian my done means marketplace here electoral votes are the most popular item for many years. each new president coming to power in ukraine begins his presidency from scratch. several years ago thousands of people came to the my dam in an attempt to change the course of history in the so-called already troubling. my down has since become a symbol of shattered hopes for many. just as the only left over from the revolution is this orange jacket. ukrainian society is split that's the main outcome of the orange revolution on one side as the country's pro russian east while in western ukraine hostile attit

the man who blew and chapman's cover charge investigators concluded their work over the disclosure of eleven russian agents in the u.s. and made for a dramatic real life spy saga last summer. next we assess hopes for a lasting peace between israel and the palestinians the interview coming up. what happens to be aired on maliki the palestinian foreign affairs minister so thank you very much for joining us here on r.t. in the palestinian unilateral declaration of statehood that's scheduled for september at the united nations is it still on track because there has been recent noises that if negotiations between israelis and palestinians work out and it will be canceled well you know first of all. it wasn't our choice to go to the united nations to seek permission for the policy of state never to be. our intention has been always always until this moment. to get. negotiations with the israelis and as a result of the negotiations the militants overcome since the. should take place so. should come as a result of negotiations of an agreement between israel and palestine this is it now since

the man who blew out a chapman's cover is charged investigators conclude their work over the disclosure of eleven russian agents in the u.s. that made for a dramatic real life spy cyber last summer. next i'm going off talks with the head of a think tank claiming to find a way to end world poverty that's coming up that's coming up in the spotlight. hungry for the full story we've got it for. the biggest issues get a human voice face to face with the news makers. bringing you the latest in science and technology from around russia. we've done for the future coverage. hello again and we're all come to the spotlight then see the show on our at c i'll bring up than today my guest in the studio is hans rights according to statistics about cost of the world's population who live in poverty that i guess is by your peers that it's governments and n.g.'s have been trying to find a way out that without much success so far for the organization called the grammy would create their black says it has a working model of eradicating poverty what's the solution we asked the founder of the grameen creativ

rich chapman of our station wcco is there with the latest. good evening. >> reporter: good evening, russ. this area of north minneapolis has basically been paralyzed since that storm swept through around 2:30 this afternoon. if you look down one. side streets in north minneapolis you can see it looks more like a force than a city street. >> toppled power lines, trees ripped up from the roots, homes have been damaged. we have one report of a home totally destroyed. a man was trapped inside but was able to get out of that house. right now fire department and police are here on the scene trying to tell people to watch out for the fallen power lines. right now city buses are trapped in the inter your north minneapolis because there is no way out because of downed treats-- trees. the good news there were no injuries but lots of damages. they will be cleaning up for the next couple of days. >> mitchell: okay. thank you so much. crews in kansas are trying to restore power there after tornadoes cut through the town of reading last night killing one p

interesting lifestyle like and chapman of the so-called sixty ninety agencies a very prominent figure in russia featured quite frequently in various news reports even since i can did make the news today he of course was one of the four men that were exchanged for the a ten people found guilty of espionage that he actually won a settlement in the european human rights court under which russia has to pay him a financial compensation for all that he has suffered whilst in prison in russia blood despite the fact that this man's name still features in the headlines he's not of course gathering as much attention as arctics on the very high ranking military official from russia's foreign intelligence. service who has it seems i was the one responsible for. leaking names of all those found guilty of espionage in the united states i fish oils in washington. and elsewhere around the world tonight how verse and fact visuals of sign the reconciliation deal that puts an end to the full year rift both palestinian parties are planning a new one of the government following the upcoming elections rela

the man who blew out a chapman's cover is charged best gaiters conclude their work over the disclosure of a love and a russian agents in the u.s. that made for a dramatic real life spider plus stuff. up next max kaiser and stacy herbert explain how the trillions of dollars injected into the world's economy mostly ended up in the hands of bankers kaiser report finding your way. nice guys are this is the kaiser report talk about your leading economic indicators as you know that according to a recent study the best looking and highest priced hookers are now in washington d.c. and no longer in los angeles california first to give you an idea of how the economy is going in the united states let's take a look at all of the money in washington d.c. stacy everybody got max we have a financial war going on and i have all the evidence you need in my headlines today central banks punt three trillion pounds into world economy so the world central banks have pumped three chilean pounds or five trillion dollars into the global financial system since the crisis the equivalent of eight percent of the

greg chapman had share as a teacher.e said thanks to her advice he became one. >> students really want do well in the class and want to do well for her. the whole process and everything about science she taught us made we want to go into chemistry. >> reporter: she was named maryland teacher of the year before receiving the honor of a lifetime. she'll spend the entire week in washington, d.c. ing. >>> still to come. backing the mayor. the new challenger she'll face. >>> coming up, another huge find of poached striped bass. that story as eyewitness news continues. >>> mayor blake picks up a key endorsement. her support comes as the new challenger enters the race. >> reporter: mayor stephanie rawlings blake is getting an endorsement. >> i think she has leadership, know how, dedication and integrity. >> reporter: greg conway filed his candidacy for mayor. >> i'm ready to go. some are ready but i doubt they're as energetic as i am. >> reporter: it also includes ottis rolling who is not surprised by the competition. >> i took

. >> reporter: greg chapman had cher as a teacher.e said thanks to her advice, he became one. >> students want to do well, do well for her. the whole process she taught us, everything about science made me want to study more science and go into something, possibly chemistry. >> reporter: cher was named cher's teach are of the year. cher will spend the entire week in washington, d.c. in frederick county, i'm jessica kartalija, wjz eyewitness news. >> cher earned her masters degree from mcdaniels college in 1996. >>> if you're waiting for someone to get home from work, let's check in with kristy breslin. hi, kristy. >> another hat in the ring, the field for mayor candidates rose. frank conaway declared his decision to warren. pat warren tells us the incumbent mayor gets a powerful endorsement. >> reporter: mayor stephanie rawlings-blake gets the endorsement of a major senator. >> i think she has leadership, know-how, dedication and integrity. >> reporter: frank conaway stands with his supporters before filing. >> i'm ready to g some of

mark david chapman, who killed john lennon, was once held there. so was david burkewitz.inic strauss-kahn is able to leave his jail cell and can go outside for an hour a day. but will be escorted by a corrections officer. inside, he's allowed to periodically walk around his housing area corridor where he can watch tv. >> everything is difficult. and the most difficult thing i think for any particular person is to deal with the dehumanization, because you're just one of 13,000 people, and to deal with being cut off from the outside world. >> in his first day at likers, he had one visitor. inmates can have up to three people per visit, not including attorneys who are given access to their clients any given day. mary snow, cnn, this morning. >>> still ahead, bernie madoff is serving more than 100 years, but his assets are up on the auction block. >>> and don't you hate it when people talk loudly on their cell phones in a restaurant or on a plane? tonight, this story winds up one woman on the "ridicu-list." a 16-hour cell phone conversation. we'll tell you where she was chatt

[applause] >> arthur howard means looking at the lifeless land speculator and evangelist john chapman who became known as johnny appleseed. for more information, visit the website at howard means.com. >> up next on booktv, subway discovers what took to the role. evangelicalism provided by a trip of good versus evil in north and south america as a politically mediated resolution between the two sides became unrealistic due to the inclusion of religion in political affairs. this lasts about an hour. >> 150 years ago today, the firing on fort sumter in charleston harbor launched for bloody terrible year as we know as american civil war. we realize the impact of that conflict has been felt in almost every area of our culture cents. it has shaped our nation in ways good and bad end remains a focal point for controversy, discussion and dispute for millions of people. if you have any doubt about that, consider that just yesterday the placement of an historical plaque denoting the union burning of the lancet during the civil war was protested by the naacp because of its location in the middle

mark david chapman who killed john lennon was once held there, so was david berkowitz, the son of samecent years, little wayne spent time there on a weapons possession charge. strauss-khan is able to leave his jail cell says a prison spokesman and can go outside for an hour a day. it will be escorted by a correction's officer. inside, he's allowed to periodically walk around his housing area corridor where he watches tv. >> everything is difficult. and the most difficult thing i think for any particular person is to deal with the dehumanization because you're just one of 13,000 people. and to deal with being cut off from the outside world. >> reporter: in his first day at rikers, strauss-khan had one visitor. inmates can have three visits per week, up to three people per visit and that is not including attorneys who are given access to their clients on any given day. mary snow, cnn, new york. >>> we want to take you back to ireland now where queen elizabeth is beginning the second day of a visit with a trip to the guinness brewery in dublin. our reporter joins us now from ireland. >>

>> yes, chapman, orange county. >> i want to put out information. in anybody has any information of where to find him, there's a couple of numbers. there's the find will norton@gmail.com and a phone number, i also have on my blackberry, 757-751-will. that's 757-751-will. >> what we need to know is we really need to have people f they've seen him at a hospital, if they've seen him anywhere, he most likely has head trauma and probably had some facial lacerations. i know going through glass sun roof, so he probably doesn't look exactly like that. but he is 5 -- he's 6'4" and he's slender, brown hair, blue eyes, slik freckles on his face and arm. >> how are you holding up? >> we're just taking it step by step. we're doing everything we can to find him. we're trying to get the word out saying, have you seen my brother? just taking it moment by moment. >> we'll continue to put the picture up throughout the hour and try to put the numbers up as well. i wish you luck. we'll keep in touch with you. >> i want to make sure we thank all the help that has come.

at chapman university professor and former editor of reason magazine has written extensively on morality and business. capitalism versus individualism, and the pros and cons of libertarian plo

. >> a chapman university sorority just created a giant thank-you letter for all of the men and womenit's 30x90 feet and they're hoping it sets a new guinness world record. >> the students there correlated event with military appreciation month. a small token for our heroes putting their lives on the line every single day. good reminder. >> and that could not be more timely considering what we've seen the true heroes do with osama bin laden in the last couple of days. incredible. >> and say, hats off it our heroes. the men and women of our military. >> baddest dudes on the planet. >> we'll be right back with more "world news now." >>> welcome back. >>> welcome back. the killing of osama bin laden has shined a very bright light on americans special operations forces. since late sunday we have learned a lot about the navy s.e.a.l.s and also about the elite team six. >> elite is the word. a secretive team of course but we're getting some clues about who they are. chris cuomo got some answers. >> reporter: bone shakers sports bar in virginia where navy s.e.a.l. team six trains. locals toa

we will also be joined by tim canova, who is of the betty hutton williams professor economic lot chapman university law school and the co-director of the center will wall and development his research crosses the disciplines of the law, public finance, economics and history. if we could begin. >> thanks a lot, like. i appreciate the chance to talk about this. we have the adult table and the kids table and i think as much a policy debate in washington as being the kids table. you could argue over i was reading in the times this big thing about the oil tax breaks which i take them back to the reality is nothing. it's not really any money. what really matters is the fed and we are not invited to the table for the most part it's over here, don't talk about that, that's not the realm of congress, not really the realm of popular discussion. what policies are in terms of employment issues and he talked about the dual mandate which is exactly right we are looking at least in principle we have a dual mandate unlike the european central bank which has a focus on inflation and the of this focus on i

mark david chapman who killed john lennon was once held there.l killer. in recent years, rapper little wayne spent time there on a weapons possession charge. strass-kahn is able to leave his jail cell says a prison spokesman and can go outside for an hour a day. it will be escorted by a corrections officer. inside he is allowed to periodically walk around his housing area corridor where he can watch tv. >> everything is difficult. and the most difficult thing i think for any particular person is to deal with the dehumanization because you are just one of 13,000 people. and to deal with the cutoff from the outside world. >> reporter: strass-kahn like other inmates here have three visits a week with up to three people each visit. that does not say for an attorney, corrections department says his attorney can visit as many times on any given day. wolf? >> he does have one of the best criminal defense attorneys in the u.s. thank you. thanks very much, mary, for that. >>> let's get to a very, very different sex scandal now. bombshell confirmation arno

went to auburn where i taught for ten years and then from auburn, i went to this place right here, chapman university in orange county which was a wonderful change for me. >> host: what do you think of the concept of tenure? >> guest: i don't like it. i have left tenure position twice in my career and never looked back. tenure is a debilitating, educationally debilitating aspect of higher education. it may have had some point 120 years ago in germany where it was invented, at least to the best of my knowledge, i'm not a historian of this. but generally speaking, tenure could be achieved through contract. if you are really that good that you have deserved to be kept on for a lifetime, then deal for this. strike a good agreement with the university. don't make it as a matter of public policy, like a right or entitlement. i don't agree with tenure. although it could be part of some institutions, the one-size-fits-all element of it disturbs me. >> our next caller, welcome. are you there? all right. we're going to move on to west lake village, california. you are on for tibor machan. >> caller:

there i went to auburn where i talk for ten years and from auburn pair went to this place right here, chapmanuniversity in orange county which was a wonderful change. >> host: what do you think of the concept of tenure? >> guest: i don't like it. i left tenured positions twice in my career and never looked back. tenure is a debilitating, education leave debilitating aspects of higher education. it might have had at some .125 years ago in germany where it was invented to the best of my knowledge, i am not a historian of this but generally speaking, tenure can be achieved through contact. if you deserve to be kept on for a lifetime, then deal for this. strike a good agreement with the university. don't make it a matter of public policy like a right. like an entitlement. i don't faint -- it could be part of some institutions. be 1-size-fits-all element disturbs me. >> host: alexandria, virginia, our next caller. are you there? we are going to move on to westlake village for tibor machan. >> caller: first of all, i am disappointed that the l.a. times forsake ucla ended basically stuck ucla and mo