. >> host: chari sherry is n north carolina, democrat's line. >> caller: hello. i am -- mi on? >> host: you are were on. go ahead. >> caller: i couldn't tell. my concern is the projection that show that we spinrite and 79% of all federal revenue for social security and other social programs. the debt projection is that in ten years, 2% of the revenue willll go for total federal revenue will go for interest on the debt. i don't see any effort of just going on with government that can possibly make that situation tolerable. if you wait ten ten years to solve the problem, that's based on the figures. it's a big issue in my opinion. >> guest: yes, and look i think the question about the sustainability of our expenditures as a country is a very, very real one, and certainly the increase inry interest rate puts more pressure on the budget. this is an issue that is one that is been long-standing and is our general budget as well as healthcare issues on and on and on. once again ibus would say real, really important issue for our political leaders to confront. there are different persp