we all underestimate the amount and charismamina, a national be figure.ou can say what you want to say about donald trump and hillary clinton, they are high-level professionals at this game. it will be very hard for a guy who has no skill never running for anything before. never been on tv -- he has been on tv a little bit, but very hard. mark: he would have to do well enough to get into the debate to be a factor in the three. john: i'm not even talking about winning, but whether he can stand on the same mark: stage. mark:mark: this guy has not even been a minor level politician. people will start googling him now. if you're someone like mitt romney, you want someone who you are proud to vote for. this guy, you could he proud to vote for him, say this is a true conservative, a guy who served in the military with an outstanding resume, but is it someone that donald trump would for them to say, how do we react? no. john: we don't want to be dismissive. this is a citizen in the best possible standing. rs who do notmpe like the idea of sitting out the electio