experience i had with the university of georgia integration, the -- one of the undergraduates, charlayne hunterort of hostile coeds, so we talked to her on the phone quite often. she's still a friend. one day, we were talking about a trip she had taken back from savannah, and she said it was awful on the train. i said, i thought it was a very good train. and she said, not where we have to sit. and i knew a lot about interstate transportation and all of that by that time but all of that trained from my mind and i thought, they can't make her sit back there. it was sort of personal. and i realized that people in the south, black people in the south, it's personal every day and, to some extent, still that way in america. i think chris rock had a great line that summed it all up when he said in his standup routine, none of you white people out in the audience would change places with me, and i'm rich. >> trevor: the stories that you tell, you come from being a reporter, you were writing these dispatches. how important do you feel it was for you to embrace these stories as personal stories? because