hunter-gault -- charlayne hunter-gault. about thisl excited conversation and so excited to get it started, but we skipped over one thing and we can't skip it's too important. that is our acknowledgment and special recognition of jack greenberg. so i'm going to ask just before we start the conversation for ted shawrector counsel to come and give our special recognition to jack greenberg. [applause] afternoon. let me congratulate cissy is an inspiration, .entor, friend i wish all of you could know cissy marshall the way some of us have been fortunate to get to know her. most wickedof the senses of humor you will ever hear. but she's a great, great civil her own name. in greenberg. presently, by my two -- three significant tories. usge weinstein isn't with today. bill coleman, of course, is. heroes.y but out of the lawyer who's is onebrown, there survivor and that is jack greenberg. jack greenberg came to the legal defense fund, as you see from the program, in 1948. came to the legal defense fund after serving in world war ii,

called study new, which comes out of the civil rights mom, particularly the episode in which charlayne hunter-gault was integrating the university. so the '60s -- i don't know who you know it or not or you have gone over to brooklyn museum which has a show on the art of the civil rights mom, finally, here in brooklyn -- [applause] >> from the '60s, you know. 2015. i rule opinion out. and it's curated by shelly jones, which some of you may know. so that's going on. so now my mission is to bring to the public the '70s are work. faith is known for her children's books, tar beach being the most famous of them. [applause] >> and her work is in the collections of all the major museums. but right now, since i was growing up while the was doing the '70s work in 1970 i was 18. in 1979 i was 19 -- or 1980 i was 20 -- no, that's -- 28, right. 1979 i did "black macho." when i wrote "black macho" after having spent my life living in a house with an artist who produced the work you see behind you, producing the work you see behind you, and who was a black feminist and who i was actively engage width all the time

. >> others are tailgaters and the one i hate, the person who goes into the fast charlayne hunter-gaultw down. there you go, kelly. no man, you're running short of gas and you're upset driving. have a nice memorial day weekend. >> okay. when you come back on tuesday, we're going to look for some positive news on the hot list, all right in. >> we'll try. >> have a great weekend. >> you, too. >> when he said road rage, i thought about rate rage. >> what makes people more happy, road rage or rate rage? >> is the expression clear to you yet? >> it's a fancy way of saying nothing. >> do you think we're suffering from -- could the markets here be suffering from a case of rate rage or why aren't we? >> why aren't rates moving? maybe that's the question? >> i don't know. i think people are more concerned about road rage than rate rage but i do think there's a bifurcation -- with road rage i start with a little flicking of the lights to start to be nice and then the full horn if they don't get out of my way. >> i feel like you've got to start with flicking the lights but you still feel bad and,