charles barkley famously said years ago, i'm not aole model but we've encouraged athletes to speak theird on things. sometimes they'll be eloquent and sometimes they'll talk wisely about issues and sometimes they'll quote joe rogan talking points. there is a downside to that. the reason rodgers resonates, it really feels like a surprise, like we've learned something about an athlete that we thought we knew and it's very different than the perception we had of that athlete. >> will leach of "new york magazine," thank you very much. >> my pleasure. thanks for having me. judy: as president biden prepares to sign the infrastructure bill into law on monday, and the first electoral re-districting maps are being passed in states across the country, men americans have turned their focus to the rising cost of goods from food to gasoline. to discuss all this and more we are joined by jonathan capart and gary abernathy, columnists for "the washington post." it's very good to see both of you. at a time when we don't see a lot of bipartisanship in the city, there was a bipartisan vote after we finish