they had people like charles c. b., walton. they were members doing the wti and still probably one of the few that is lasting that was created under fdr so chicago has quite a lot to boast about. >> host: wanted to ask about adam green's book, selling the race. what is this about? >> guest: he looks at the economy during that time period what worked and what didn't work. he. >> a lot of time in his book explaining the rise of the black press. people like john h. johnson, people like the "chicago defender", the -- so he does a lot of things during the migration period and during world war i and world war ii. it's a really fantastic work, you know? one of the books that people really like is kings though. a lot of people knew especially the older people. >> host: what is this book about? >> guest: policy. today's lottery, yesterday's lottery. >> host: the policy was actually lottery? >> guest: yeah it was. in those days it was the numbers real. i can remember my anti-takumi numbers and saying go down the street and put in 5 cents