with us, robert shiller and charles ellis. charles, you have the most wall street chapter.like in terms of leadership from goldman sachs on bringing good to capitalism? charles: i like what i've seen let's start right there. lloyd blankfein is one smart cookie. everyone underestimates him until they get to know him right -- quite well. he has the concept of what he must do before he retires. he has put goldman sachs back on the right track and that a lot of things to make that happen. tom: at the heart of this in the endless conference calls you have been on is bringing compensation from revenue metrics down from the income statement to some form of profit metrics or profit ratios. are you optimistic we can achieve that? charles: i'm always optimistic. you've got to watch out for the natural bias. but i do believe we can make real progress in that direction. but it's a question of governance and that often relates to the board of trustees that have been chosen to take seriously the role of governor. tom: brendan, here is a quote for good. time will tell whether it will cont