. >> this guest from last night that we're t referri was charles elson, runs the weinberr ceor corporateat the university of delaware. his point was, look, when you areerying to ple everybody you end up pleasing nobody. here is whae said. listen. >> the watch stops, it still gets the time right twice you have multiple constituencies you answer to, you will get it right for somebod but it doesn't mean a healthy business. for shareholders being deep sixed like this, particularly given the fact that today everyone is a shareholder through the retirement plan, state pension plans and what not, it really will harm ihink accountability of management to the shareholder and t public. >> essentially maybe the company loses focus when they get away from the idea that it is all about profitability. what dhi you? >> i think he's completely wrong. you only have to talko leading ceos today to understand that the way to build healthy company is to look after all of your stakeholders. shareholders will win in the end. our own research and our own data and our own funds show that. unfortunately, i think