host: ford appeared charles. democrat. good morning. -- sort out. charles. democrat. good morning. caller: it seems conservative ideology has been in control since the 1980's, when reagan took over and had the mandate to make the changes he made. he ran up the debt. there have been conservative presidents and the debt has gone up all of this time. i would suggest that the death of liberalism is bringing the death of the country, you guys have kind of went everything, so we had better start reviving some liberalism, because what we have left is a bunch of crap. guest: your complaint about ronald reagan -- ronald reagan put the deficit, as a -- ronald reagan put the deficit, as a percentage of the american gdp continue to decline. it was a small sliver of the american economy. the $16 trillion that has been built up over the last several years is a really onerous weight on the economy, and the $1 trillion deficit per year by obama, something like that -- obama has spent more money, added more to the debt than the accumulated presidents of the united states read "the wall street journ