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charles hanley. >> as far as syngman rhee, it's interesting.ne of my characters was a north korean general. he was the operations chief in the north korean army. we followed him, the reader follows him through the war. and he learned late in the war about the genesis of the war. he learned from an old comrade of his who happened to be il-sung's russian interpreter, and he was told that in march of '49, il-sung went to moscow and proposed to josef stalin, who of course was the sponsor of the communist nations, the chinese communists and north koreans and others, that he wanted to invade and reunify, invade the south and reunify. stalin was extremely cautious about this because he was worried about the americans. the american army, the occupation army, was still in korea. he told him it's not a very good idea. but also, he pointed out to kim, you know, syngman rhee seems very eager to invade you, to invade the north. so why don't you just let him do that, then the whole world will comport what you're doing into defense and you can take over all o
charles hanley. >> as far as syngman rhee, it's interesting.ne of my characters was a north korean general. he was the operations chief in the north korean army. we followed him, the reader follows him through the war. and he learned late in the war about the genesis of the war. he learned from an old comrade of his who happened to be il-sung's russian interpreter, and he was told that in march of '49, il-sung went to moscow and proposed to josef stalin, who of course was the sponsor of...
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charles hanley? guest: yes.i noted earlier, there was an agreement between the united states and soviet union to after the endreas of world war ii, but the discussions fell apart after a couple of years because of their growing animosity over so many other matters, particularly in europe. they simply went ahead in mentoring and fostering the creation of separate governments. in 1948, the republic of korea was declared in seoul. and later in 1948, the democratic republic of korea would be declared in north korea. as far as the attitudes towards i can say the korean people are very, let's say, nationalistic, very proud of their culture, their history, their unity over centuries. back in 1950, this was the first time koreans fought koreans in a millennium. it had been unify for about 1000 years before the soviets and americans brought about this war. so i think of their heart and hearts, all koreans would love to see reunification, but i know in the south there are misgivings because of the great burden that the se
charles hanley? guest: yes.i noted earlier, there was an agreement between the united states and soviet union to after the endreas of world war ii, but the discussions fell apart after a couple of years because of their growing animosity over so many other matters, particularly in europe. they simply went ahead in mentoring and fostering the creation of separate governments. in 1948, the republic of korea was declared in seoul. and later in 1948, the democratic republic of korea would be...
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charles hanley? >> yes. i'm sorry you're asking the key players? >> he mentioned general mcarthur, i was going to mention him but some of the other key figures in the conflict. >> yes. on mcarthur, his behavior really came to the fore during the war itself and not leading up to it. during the war, general mcarthur was the overall commander in the far east and so he was the one who ordered troops in after getting the ok from truman. he had a very hard time, just to quickly summarize the early back and forth of the war, the north korean invasion pushed the south korean army and the few american troops there into the southeastern quadrant of south korea which became known as the busan barometer and defensive line. then later, in september 1950, mcarthur landed a huge amphibious force west of seoul and that effectively cut off the north koreans in the south from their resupply. at the same time, the american south korean forces broke out from there busan perimeter and drove north korean forces north. the north koreans were break weekend at that point.
charles hanley? >> yes. i'm sorry you're asking the key players? >> he mentioned general mcarthur, i was going to mention him but some of the other key figures in the conflict. >> yes. on mcarthur, his behavior really came to the fore during the war itself and not leading up to it. during the war, general mcarthur was the overall commander in the far east and so he was the one who ordered troops in after getting the ok from truman. he had a very hard time, just to quickly...
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our guest is charles hanley.ullets or prize-winning prize-winningtzer author for the associated press. we are looking at the korean war that happened 70 years ago. we go to bob. caller: my brother got killed over there august 5, 1952. most is the me the fact that most people over here these days do not know china was the biggest part of why we lost that war. the second thing is that memorial day everybody says, happy memorial day. it is a very happy for me, i will tell you that. second, people like colin kaepernick who disrespect the , that is tell you what we can everoint respect the honor of the people that died. that is what memorial day is about, but you get a guy like colin kaepernick or these other celebrities saying this is our flag, and they're disrespecting it. i would love to disrespect one of their relatives in the same way. host: bob, tell us about your brother. what happened? caller: he waited to get drafted and he was ready to come home and a sniper got him. he was with the regimental combat team an
our guest is charles hanley.ullets or prize-winning prize-winningtzer author for the associated press. we are looking at the korean war that happened 70 years ago. we go to bob. caller: my brother got killed over there august 5, 1952. most is the me the fact that most people over here these days do not know china was the biggest part of why we lost that war. the second thing is that memorial day everybody says, happy memorial day. it is a very happy for me, i will tell you that. second, people...
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. >> charles hanley is joining us. he is a former peak correspondent out with a new planes, life and death in a hidden war. we thank you for being with us on c-span. >> thank you. host: the historical significance of the korean war -- what is it 70 years later? guest: we can see it simply and the tension that still exists on the peninsula with the. nuclear crisis. . it is sometimes called the forgotten war. it was an indecisive conflict in a far-off place. it came just five years after world war ii. eventually, it was overshadowed by the vietnam war. but when we look back, we would can see -- we can see it is a watershed moment in 20th-century history. it militarized the cold war between the communist and capitalist worlds. it was the first undeclared war by the united states and its history. conflicts the last between great powers, in this case, american china with soviet with-- america and china soviet help. it permanently militarize the united states within just a couple years. quadrupled indget 1950's.y in that sen
. >> charles hanley is joining us. he is a former peak correspondent out with a new planes, life and death in a hidden war. we thank you for being with us on c-span. >> thank you. host: the historical significance of the korean war -- what is it 70 years later? guest: we can see it simply and the tension that still exists on the peninsula with the. nuclear crisis. . it is sometimes called the forgotten war. it was an indecisive conflict in a far-off place. it came just five years...
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next on american history tv, we are joined by pulitzer prize winning journalist charles j. hanley flames, life and death in a hidden war." he talks about the war that erupted between north and south korea 70 years ago on june 20 5, 1950, and looks back at the division of the country along the 38th parallel after world coldi, its role in the war, and the conflict that led to the deaths of more than 36,000 americans. first, a brief look at the events that led to war in this u.s. information agency film. >> this is korea, a nation divided at the end of world war ii at the 38th parallel. in north korea, the soviet union lost that time setting up a communist puppet government. in the south, the united states and the united nations struggle to establish an independent
next on american history tv, we are joined by pulitzer prize winning journalist charles j. hanley flames, life and death in a hidden war." he talks about the war that erupted between north and south korea 70 years ago on june 20 5, 1950, and looks back at the division of the country along the 38th parallel after world coldi, its role in the war, and the conflict that led to the deaths of more than 36,000 americans. first, a brief look at the events that led to war in this u.s. information...
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here to take calls and tweets is charles hanley, author of "ghost flames."ay on "the civil war," the national museum of civil war -- thee hosting online tattooed historian about soldiers' nutrition and hygiene. somegiene, i know that for interpreters out there and reenactors, many of us wouldn't bathe all weekend and after three days we smelled pretty bad out there. so you can imagine going weeks at a time without getting a bath . joseph woodward was a surgeon in the u.s. army and said "personal cleanliness is often nonexistent. the men are unwashed, their clothes filthy, bodies full andment, -- full of vermin, policing the latrines, the trench is too shallow, daily covering is not there, and the dirt is neglected. large numbers of the men will not use the latrines but instead every clump of bushes and fence border, it is impossible to step outside the encampment without having both eye and nostril continually offended." that is one of the best quotes about hygiene i have ever found in the archives. it is so dramatic and makes you think of the pungent smells
here to take calls and tweets is charles hanley, author of "ghost flames."ay on "the civil war," the national museum of civil war -- thee hosting online tattooed historian about soldiers' nutrition and hygiene. somegiene, i know that for interpreters out there and reenactors, many of us wouldn't bathe all weekend and after three days we smelled pretty bad out there. so you can imagine going weeks at a time without getting a bath . joseph woodward was a surgeon in the u.s....
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joining us to take fewer calls and tweets is a pulitzer prize-winning journalist charles hanley. ghost flames. 1950-53.death korea in this cities to her travels the country exploring the american story. since 2011 we have been to 200 communities across the nation. are staff isricans staying close to home due to coronavirus. next, look at one of our city tour visits.
joining us to take fewer calls and tweets is a pulitzer prize-winning journalist charles hanley. ghost flames. 1950-53.death korea in this cities to her travels the country exploring the american story. since 2011 we have been to 200 communities across the nation. are staff isricans staying close to home due to coronavirus. next, look at one of our city tour visits.
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a conversation with charles hanley on the korean war. nley, out with the book, "the korean conflict," but first, some background on the events that led to the war. ♪ [video clip] >> ii at the 38th parallel. in north korea, the soviet union wasted
a conversation with charles hanley on the korean war. nley, out with the book, "the korean conflict," but first, some background on the events that led to the war. ♪ [video clip] >> ii at the 38th parallel. in north korea, the soviet union wasted
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our guest is charles hanley.ets or prize-winning prize-winningtzer author for the associated press. we are looking at the korean war that happened 70 years ago. we go to bob. caller: my brother got killed over there august 5, 1952. most is the me the fact that most people over here these days do not know china was the biggest part of why we lost that war. the second thing is that memorial day everybody says, happy memorial day. it is a very happy for me, i will tell you that. second, people like colin kaepernick who disrespect the , that is tell you what we can everoint respect the honor of the people that died. that is what memorial day is about, but you get a guy like colin kaepernick or these other celebrities saying this is our flag, and they're disrespecting it. i would love to disrespect one of their relatives in the same way. host: bob, tell us about your brother. what happened? caller: he waited to get drafted and he was ready to come home and a sniper got him. he was with the regimental combat team and e
our guest is charles hanley.ets or prize-winning prize-winningtzer author for the associated press. we are looking at the korean war that happened 70 years ago. we go to bob. caller: my brother got killed over there august 5, 1952. most is the me the fact that most people over here these days do not know china was the biggest part of why we lost that war. the second thing is that memorial day everybody says, happy memorial day. it is a very happy for me, i will tell you that. second, people...
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journalist charles hanley, author of "ghost flames," "life and death in a hidden war." "korea, 1950-53." sunday at 4:00 p.m. eastern, real america features a series of u.s. government korean war films starting with "to help peace survive." a 1974 were defense department orientation film for soldiers assigned to south korea. at 7:00 p.m., oral histories. u.s. marine veteran alan clark on serving two tours in korea between 1950 and 1953. exploring the american story. watch american history tv this weekend on c-span3. >>> first the former national security advisers has a lengthy excerpt of his book online at "wall street journal" this morning. wsj.com. john bolton the scandal of trumps foreign policy. he writes trump's conversations with xi, referring to the chinese president, reflected not only the incoherence in his trade policy also the confluence in trump's mind of his own political interests and u.s. national interests. trump co-pling manied permit and national not just on trade questions but across the whole field of national security. i'm hard pressed to identify an
journalist charles hanley, author of "ghost flames," "life and death in a hidden war." "korea, 1950-53." sunday at 4:00 p.m. eastern, real america features a series of u.s. government korean war films starting with "to help peace survive." a 1974 were defense department orientation film for soldiers assigned to south korea. at 7:00 p.m., oral histories. u.s. marine veteran alan clark on serving two tours in korea between 1950 and 1953. exploring the...
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anniversary of the korean war live on washington journal and american history tv with journalist charles hanley, author of "ghost flames life and death in a hidden war korea 1950 to 53." and sunday at 4:00 p.m. eastern, real america features a series of u.s. government korean war films starting with "to help peace survive" a 1974 defense department orientation film for soldiers assigned to south korea. and at 7:00 p.m. on oral histories, u.s. marine veteran alan clark on serving two tours in korea between 1950 and 1953. explorings the american sister, watch american history tv this weekend on c-span 3. >> sunday, on book tv, at 4:45 eastern, matthew wit ker and his book "above the law" the inside story of how the justice department tried to subvert president trump. >> the nomenclature of whether it's quote/unquote a deep state is kind of for others to decide how to define this. what i saw is i saw people that were not only working against the president's agenda as the head of the executive branch, but those that were unwilling to advance the president's agenda. >> at 11:00 p.m. eastern carol an
anniversary of the korean war live on washington journal and american history tv with journalist charles hanley, author of "ghost flames life and death in a hidden war korea 1950 to 53." and sunday at 4:00 p.m. eastern, real america features a series of u.s. government korean war films starting with "to help peace survive" a 1974 defense department orientation film for soldiers assigned to south korea. and at 7:00 p.m. on oral histories, u.s. marine veteran alan clark on...
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history tv on c-span 3 a conversation about w the korean war with pulitzer prizewinning journalist charles hanley. >> this is korea, a aii nation divided at the end of world war ii at the 38th parallel. in north korea the soviet union lost no time in setting up a ' communist government.t in the south the united states and united nations strove to establish an independent democratic republic. two years ago at seoul, capitaln a united nations commission supervised free
history tv on c-span 3 a conversation about w the korean war with pulitzer prizewinning journalist charles hanley. >> this is korea, a aii nation divided at the end of world war ii at the 38th parallel. in north korea the soviet union lost no time in setting up a ' communist government.t in the south the united states and united nations strove to establish an independent democratic republic. two years ago at seoul, capitaln a united nations commission supervised free
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tv on c-span3 a conversation about the credit union war with pulitzer prize-winning journalist charles hanley this is korea. nation divided after world war ii. in north korea the soviet union wasted no time in setting up a communist puppet government. in the south the united states and the united nations trostrovo establish an independent democratic
tv on c-span3 a conversation about the credit union war with pulitzer prize-winning journalist charles hanley this is korea. nation divided after world war ii. in north korea the soviet union wasted no time in setting up a communist puppet government. in the south the united states and the united nations trostrovo establish an independent democratic
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the 75th anniversary of the korean war, live on american journal and american history tv with charles hanleyauthor of ghost flames, life and death in a hidden r war, korea, 1950 to '53 and sunday at 4:00 p.m. eastern, real america features a series of u.s. government korean r war films starting with to help peace survive. a 1974 defense department orientation film for soldiers assigned to south korea and at 7:00 p.m. on oral histories, u.s. marine veteran alan clark on serving two tours in cory ko between 1950 and 1953. exploring the american story. watch american history tv this weekend on cspan3. >> she's probably the most tragic of all the first ladies. hated politics with a passion. >> this couch is one piece they took to the white house. they had eight rooms they had to furnish with their personal furniture. >> when she did arrive, she basically holed up and spent much of her time writing letters to her great son. she calls him my precious child, i must write to you even though you are never to see it or know it. a very pointed letter by a grieving mother. they were on a train from bost
the 75th anniversary of the korean war, live on american journal and american history tv with charles hanleyauthor of ghost flames, life and death in a hidden r war, korea, 1950 to '53 and sunday at 4:00 p.m. eastern, real america features a series of u.s. government korean r war films starting with to help peace survive. a 1974 defense department orientation film for soldiers assigned to south korea and at 7:00 p.m. on oral histories, u.s. marine veteran alan clark on serving two tours in cory...
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70th anniversary of the korean war, live on washingt"washington joud american history tv with charles hanley, author of gloet flames, life and death in a hidden war, korea, 1950 to '53. and sunday at 4:00 p.m. eastern, real america features a series of u.s. government korean war films starting with to help peace survive. a 1974 defense department orientation film for soldiers assigned to south korea. and at 7:00 p.m. on oral histories, u.s. marine veteran alan clark on serving two tours in korea between 1950 and 1953. exploring the american story. watch american history tv this weekend on cspan3. >>> sunday on book tv. at 4:45 p.m. eastern, matthew whittaker and his book, above the law, the inside story of how the justice department tried to subvert president trump. >> the nomenclature of whether it's a deep state, sort of is kind of for others to decide how to define this. what i saw is i saw people that were not only working against the president's agenda as the head of the executive branch, but those that were unwilling to advance the president's agenda. >> at 11:00 p.m. eastern, carol an
70th anniversary of the korean war, live on washingt"washington joud american history tv with charles hanley, author of gloet flames, life and death in a hidden war, korea, 1950 to '53. and sunday at 4:00 p.m. eastern, real america features a series of u.s. government korean war films starting with to help peace survive. a 1974 defense department orientation film for soldiers assigned to south korea. and at 7:00 p.m. on oral histories, u.s. marine veteran alan clark on serving two tours in...
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live on "wall street journal" and american history tv, with pulitzer prize-winning journalist charles hanley, author of "ghost flames," "life and death in a hidden war." "korea, 1950-53." sunday at 4:00 p.m. eastern, real america features a series of u.s. government korean war films starting with "to help peace survive." a 1974 were defense department orientation film for soldiers assigned to south korea. at 7:00 p.m., oral histories. u.s. marine veteran alan clark on serving two tours in korea between 1950 and 1953. exploring the american story. watch american history tv this weekend on c-span3. >>> first the former national security advisers has a lengthy excerpt of his book online at "wall street journal" this morning. wsj.com. john bolton the scandal of
live on "wall street journal" and american history tv, with pulitzer prize-winning journalist charles hanley, author of "ghost flames," "life and death in a hidden war." "korea, 1950-53." sunday at 4:00 p.m. eastern, real america features a series of u.s. government korean war films starting with "to help peace survive." a 1974 were defense department orientation film for soldiers assigned to south korea. at 7:00 p.m., oral histories. u.s....
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70th anniversary of the korean war, live on washington journal and american history tv, with charles hanleyor o of "ghost flames: korea, 1950 to '53." and sunday at 4:00 p.m., reel america starts with "to help peace survive." and at 7:00 p.m. on oral histories, alan clark on serving two tours in korea between 1950 and 1953. exploring the american story. watch american history tv this weekend on c-span 3. >> every saturday night, american history tv takes you to college classrooms around the country for lectures in history. >> why do you all know who lizzie borden is, and raise your hand if you had ever heard of this murder, the gene harris murder trial, before this class. >> the deepest cause where we'll find the true meaning of the revolution was in this transformation that took place in the minds of the american people. >> we're going to talk about both of these sides of the story here. right? the tools, the techniques of slave owner power, and we'll also talk about the tools and techniques of power that were practiced by enslaved people. >> watch history professors lead discussions with
70th anniversary of the korean war, live on washington journal and american history tv, with charles hanleyor o of "ghost flames: korea, 1950 to '53." and sunday at 4:00 p.m., reel america starts with "to help peace survive." and at 7:00 p.m. on oral histories, alan clark on serving two tours in korea between 1950 and 1953. exploring the american story. watch american history tv this weekend on c-span 3. >> every saturday night, american history tv takes you to college...
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anniversary of the korean war, live on washington journal and american history tv with journalist charles hanley author of ghost flames, life and death in a hidden war korea 1950 to '53. and sunday at 4:00 p.m. eastern real america features korean war films starting with "to help peace survive" a 1974 defense department orientation film for soldiers assigned to south korea. and at 7:00 p.m. on oral histories, u.s. alan clark on serving two tours in korea between 1950 and 1953. exploring the american story watch american history tv this weekend on c-span 3. >> welcome. we couldn't be more happy than you joining us here at the center and we're happy there is a center for colorado women's history. now i'm michael eriksson the education coordinator here and i love setting things up like this and we couldn't be more happy and honored to have charlotte waysman join us. many of you know her and her partner here co-author jill teigen wrote this book, beautiful book, that is worth every penny it is. she's here and after she'll answer all the questions after the presentation and have a table set up here t
anniversary of the korean war, live on washington journal and american history tv with journalist charles hanley author of ghost flames, life and death in a hidden war korea 1950 to '53. and sunday at 4:00 p.m. eastern real america features korean war films starting with "to help peace survive" a 1974 defense department orientation film for soldiers assigned to south korea. and at 7:00 p.m. on oral histories, u.s. alan clark on serving two tours in korea between 1950 and 1953....
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. ♪ >> >> next on a merkin history tv, we are joined by pulitzer prize winning journalist charles j. hanley flames, life and death in a hidden war." he talks about the war that erupted between north and south korea 70 years ago on june 1950, and looks back at the division of the country along the 38th parallel after world war ii, its role in the cold war, and the conflict that led to the deaths of more than 36,000 americans. first, a brief look at the events that led to war in this u.s. information agency film.
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the 75th anniversary of the korean war, live on american journal and american history tv with charles hanley death in a hidden r war, korea, 1950 to '53 and sunday at 4:00 p.m. eastern, real america features a series of u.s. government korean r war films starting with to help peace survive. a 1974 defense department orientation film for soldiers assigned to south korea and at 7:00 p.m. on oral histories,
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weekend. , we are marking the 70th anniversary of the with ther, live pulitzer prize-winning author charles hanleyd sunday, at 4 p.m. eastern, features a series starting war films, with "help peace survive." at 7 p.m. on "oral histories, u.s. histories," al u.s. marine veteran on tour -- two tours of duty. american history tv this weekend on c-span3. "washington journal" continues. host: joining us now, rev. liz theoharis, chairman of the poor people's campaign. what is this campaign? guest: it was found about three years ago. we are organized in 46 states across the country, led by ofple of faith, people conscience, advocates to see the interlocking injustices of systemic racism, systemic poverty, militarism and the war economy, and this distorted world narrative eating away at our society, saying we can do better, we can do more, so let's build a movement from the bottom up. what are the roots of economic and racial injustice? think we lost her there. a technical problem. we will try to get rev. liz theoharis back. by the way, she is heart of -- as we said the cochair of this group and they are
weekend. , we are marking the 70th anniversary of the with ther, live pulitzer prize-winning author charles hanleyd sunday, at 4 p.m. eastern, features a series starting war films, with "help peace survive." at 7 p.m. on "oral histories, u.s. histories," al u.s. marine veteran on tour -- two tours of duty. american history tv this weekend on c-span3. "washington journal" continues. host: joining us now, rev. liz theoharis, chairman of the poor people's campaign....
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joining us to take fewer calls and tweets is a pulitzer prize-winning journalist charles hanley. author of ghost flames. 1950-53.death korea in this cities to her travels the country exploring the american story. since 2011 we have been to 200 communities across the nation. are staff isricans staying close to home due to coronavirus. next, look at one of our city tour visits. >> this museum has been in our community for almost exceed years, and it is an important part of the community because we highlight the local natural history, local cultural history, and even some of the local science education. we do a lot of partnerships with texas a&m university. we have exhibits that are long-term and short-term. we do lots of children's education, and we even have some live animals. i would like to show you a few things about our museum that we are so proud of. if you look over this direction, you will see a mural that we are incredibly proud of. it was done by a nationally recognized artist, painted on site. it has been here since about 1993, 1995, and it is the only place where you ca
joining us to take fewer calls and tweets is a pulitzer prize-winning journalist charles hanley. author of ghost flames. 1950-53.death korea in this cities to her travels the country exploring the american story. since 2011 we have been to 200 communities across the nation. are staff isricans staying close to home due to coronavirus. next, look at one of our city tour visits. >> this museum has been in our community for almost exceed years, and it is an important part of the community...
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anniversary of the korean war, live on washington journal and american history tv with journalist charles hanleythor of ghost flames, life and death in a hidden war korea 1950 to '53. and sunday at 4:00 p.m. eastern real america features korean war films starting with "to help peace survive" a 1974 defense department orientation film for soldiers assigned to south korea. and at 7:00 p.m. on oral histories, u.s. alan clark on serving two tours in korea between 1950 and 1953. exploring the american story watch american history tv this weekend on
anniversary of the korean war, live on washington journal and american history tv with journalist charles hanleythor of ghost flames, life and death in a hidden war korea 1950 to '53. and sunday at 4:00 p.m. eastern real america features korean war films starting with "to help peace survive" a 1974 defense department orientation film for soldiers assigned to south korea. and at 7:00 p.m. on oral histories, u.s. alan clark on serving two tours in korea between 1950 and 1953. exploring...