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. >> so, charles, what can prosecutors do with hicks saying this and kushner, reportedly, saying themp truly believe that the election was stolen? >> alex, what it was going to come down to the question of narrative. prosecutors will want to essentially paint a picture of donald trump was someone so concerned with an election, whether he thought he lost or whether he believed it was stolen, that he would do anything to move forward as long as the end result was him being president again. i think that is ultimately where the value of either testimony, and how prosecutor gonna weave this together, to tell the story. it's all about the narrative. hope hicks and jared kushner are key witnesses close to the president who spoke to the president and who are going to be able to testify as to not only the present state of mind but his state of awareness around what he knew regarding his loss to joe biden. >> minutes after the kushner news broke, charles, new york times reporter, maggie haberman, reflected on both kushner and ivanka trump's january six committee testimony. saying that back the