forms a kiev denying all allegations earlier we called the thoughts of former british army officer charles hsu bridge. shows many of the characteristics one would associate with white phosphorus use in particular it looks like it's an air device that's to say it's been delivered by mortars or artillery or props in aircraft it covers quite some substantial areas you can see by the time it reaches the ground and also you've got this very characteristic. features of breaking into very small very bright burning particles which as indeed military spokespeople elsewhere have commented upon in their right to to say that it falls very quickly to the ground this is a fear some device white phosphorus will burn it intense heat will burn right through to the bone it's it can't be put out by using water and if civilians are in the air it's all my sense of course widespread damage as well as fear and of course very serious injuries if it can be proved that white phosphorus has been used against either civilian targets or in an area where it's very likely civilians will be harmed there could well be repercu

away from the russian border will try to independently verify those claims intelligence expert charles hsu bridge points out some other this crap and sees in kiev's accusations one could say from the outset with some investigation the area of ground from which it was launched and of course that would give an indication even though it's accepted i think. he's in a fluent situation in terms of who controls why any given time the government has released what it claims are a number of evidence should lead for example it is said to have these weapon systems i should point out that of course the prosecutor general himself. reports have this system so it's fair to say there's a lot of confusion at the moment and really this really points the way to the importance of a thoroughly independent. investigation to uncover all of the leads in this case. several mean stream media outlets lots to onto the message coming from washington and kiev unleashing a storm of accusation against ukraine's government forces and against moscow the editor of the global media and media channel believes the war of words

book mistrial launcher being smuggled out of ukraine after thursday's crash intelligence expert charles hsu bridge say the claims are lacking solid evidence one could say from the outset with some investigation of ground from which it was launched and of course that would give an indication even though it's accepted i think. much of east ukraine is in a fluid situation in terms of who controls why any given time the ukraine government has released what it claims are a number of evidence should lead for example it has said. intercepted communications it says between people on the ground suggested that we have those who are firing or how far the all weapons. ukraine government has in the past said that the rebels have these weapon systems i should point out that of course the government claims i was yet on cooperated in respect to these intercepted transmissions and also of course. the prosecutor general himself you know i have this system so it's fair to say there's a lot of confusion at the moment and really this really points the way to the importance of a thoroughly independent. investiga