freddie was a football player at murrah, and he became fast friends with charles irby. don't know if y'all remember the irba family. he had several children. well, charles was in our class. and freddie sometimes would visit with charles irby, they would ride around town in his family's house in east jr. over -- eastover, the city's most affluent neighborhood. we started sharing with each other, i would go to charles' house, and charles' mom was a great lady. she wasn't outspoken, she didn't come out much. she was just a mother at home, and she did a great job. charles told me one time that the thing you have to realize in life regardless of what you do or how you do it is you have to deal with certain people at a particular time, and by prolonging it, it was going to make it even longer and harder to deal with. to to get tossed over in the salad. toss it up and make it happen. and that's why their business was so successful in town, because they dealt with so many different people. but interesting stories. y'all get the book. [laughter] >> let me, let me get -- bring mi