financial correspondent charles it lamie in frankfurt is it fair to say that this tax cut didn't work. it's clearly not been the huge success that the german government hoped it would but i think it's too early to say if it has or hasn't been a success there are a lot of differences if you look at the state of between and history is so things like retail sales of clothing and shoes things like that have really fallen a lot about 25 percent in july but on the other hand you do see increases for example of online sales or sales of food so there are big discrepancies between and histories and it also could be that it takes a little bit longer for this to really filter through down to consumers but obviously there's still a lot hanging over german consumers there are about $5000000.00 people still on part time work schemes there are others about 6 percent unemployment rate so there's there's clearly a big overhang for people still and good to be a threat to the broader economic recovery it certainly could be we heard a lot of optimism from the german government from the economy minister a