than success because success tends to breed complacency and lack of humility. >> critics suggest charles kochoses green energy and government subsidies because they hurt the koch bottom line. not so, says koch. up next, why he believes corporate welfare is a disaster for all of us. and koch opens up about president obama's personal attacks on him. on the comments via president obama, beneath the dignity of the office?m joel waldman. now back it a kelly file special. >> one of your core principles seems to be government should stay out of it and you do not believe in what you call corporate welfare. explain that. >> well corporate welfare i think is a disaster for this, this country. it's crippling our economy. it is corrupting the business industry. people think that's just direct cash subsidies but the whole economy now is riddled with it. not only cash subsidies. it is government to guarantees. government loans. mandating they buy your product rather than somebody else's. getting regulations. limits on trade. all of which makes the -- the average person worse off and makes certain privilege

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you think of charles koch? less scary? let me know what you thought. i'm me begin kelly. this is "the kelly file." >>> welcome to west point holiday. i'm gretchen. i'm on the majestic grounds of the united states military academy at west point, new york. tonight, we'll explore the rich history of west point, get a rare glimpse of the living traditions of the united states military and best of all, get to enjoy the army's oldest band. ♪ the west point band is one of america's finest musical organizations. throughout the next hour we're going to hear them on the field, from the hall and on stage as they perform for the public. because it wouldn't be the holidays around here without the annual west point holiday concert in eisenhower hall. named for the class of 1915 graduate president dwight eisenhower. the hall is one of the largest theaters in america. designed to hold the entire corps of cadets. let's go inside and catch the opening number of a west point holiday. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [ applause ] >> we will be bringing you more of the west point holiday concert over the next h

charles koch? less scary? let me know what you thought. i'm me begin kelly. this is "the kelly file." e e e a great holiday and goodnight. >>> welcome to a special hour, "an american journey." >> we're at the southern tip of manhattan on governor's island, once an outpost to protect new york city from attack. we're in the shadow of the statue of liberty and just a stone's throw from ellis island, the gateway to the american dream. this hour we're taking you on a journey that highlights america's proud past through the lens of some modern stories we reported on this year. >> our journey begins just up the hudson river at george washington's creation, west point. the oldest continuously operated military post in the united states. it is there you can now experience the major battles that shape our nation. on a golf course. the course at west point allows you to tee up while you take a history lesson beginning with the american revolution and ending with afghanistan. i played the course while honoring the men and women who have gone to war to keep the rest of us

charles koch? less scary? let me know what you thought. i'm me begin kelly. this is "the kelly file." grate. make it a merry christmas. >>> hello and merry christmas. i'm kimberly guilfoyle, along with juan williams, eric bolling, dana perino and greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." ♪ ♪ >>> thank you for joining us tonight. and welcome to our christmas special, we've got an exciting and fun show for you ahead. and we are really looking forward to it. especially because our secret santa has arrived and dropped off all the presents. it's finally time for us to open them. all right, greg. even though you are the king of christmas scrooge. would you like to open your secret santa gift? >> i'll open the big one first. i have two gifts here. >> big ones matter. it feels like a sweater. did i guess it? >> did you peek? look at that. i love that. this is fantastic. the problem is it's already christmas. so i only have one day to wear this. >> could you wear that all year. >> it's so long. i don't have to wear pants around the house. >> eww

charles koch is one of the richest men in the world.eft for what is wrong with big money and politics yet there is so much more to this

the koch brothers, industrialists david and charles koch, whose combined net worth has been estimated$100 billion, have assembled what political calls a privatized political and policy advocacy operation like no other in american history. one that in key areas eclipses even the republican party. and their network includes hundreds of donors and employees 1,200 full-time year-round staffers in 107 offices nationwide. the network reportedly plans to spend $889 million a cycle, more than double what the rnc spent in the last presidential cycle. with jeb bush struggling to gain traction in the gop presidential race, it's become somewhat trendy to claim that money somehow doesn't matter in politics. yet evidence in proving that claim is all around us. as "the new york times" details in a great piece today, the very richest have been able to quietly shape tax policy that have allow themed to shield billions in income. the ultra wealthy paid a 27% tax rate two decades. yet by 2012, thanks to a combination of creative accounting and financial influence, the ultra wealthy brought their tax rat

charles koch is one of the richest men in the world.re is code on the left for what is wrong with big money and politics yet there is so much more to this

charles and caved coach koch practically wrote the book. combined their net worth is estimated to be $86 billion. along with ideology, is a push for influence. >> these major donors are heavily invested in american industry and by and knowledge la are lookin large arelooking for more influence. >> still isn't backing a candidate but in return for his donations, he's asked candidates to submit their plans for cutting carbons. george sorrows has always been a cash for democrats. he hasn't fully committed money for 2016 race but he's been one of the biggest contributors to hillary clinton since she first ran for office. sheldon adelson will take a gamble? still hasn't backed a candidate this time around. but the promise of deep pockets soont sur isn't a sure thing in the path to the white house. president obama won election. >> we'll only look back as far as the 2012 election cycle to see the vast amount of resources spent by the koch brothers and sheldon adelson. money isn't always going to be successful. >> mary snow, al jazeera. >> one of t

decided to launch what was for them, they were the largest funder of disinformation until david and charles koch came along. so, you know, first of all, again, people who have the financial resources and understand this issue have to, you know, help fund information. i don't think there's any question about that. you know, it's -- i hope we get more state attorney generals who pursue the kind of case that the new york attorney general is pursuing. very comparable to what happened with the tobacco case. and we can at least learn that who knew what when, and perhaps people can be shamed into a certain behavior change. of but, you know, money and profits drive behavior, and the tobacco companies haven't gone away. and people do still smoke. so, you know, i think, again, it's just incumbent upon everyone to be part of the information campaign. and that requires everyday people who would rather not talk about this subject becoming better at learning how to talk about it and then going out and talking about it. >> so, robert and joseph, you're clearly both brilliant scholars, and every bit of this has

charles koch tells me what he is looking for any candidate a few weeks ago. >> we need someone like calvin william gladstone who will change the trajectory of the country and both of them create marvelous prosperity, improved though welfare system, helped the poor, made government more efficient. maria: jeb bush dropping a hint on what his potential running mate would be. it would make for another historic election. >> will be elected president, i would have my vice president, i think she will be a great partner. jedi say that out loud? maria: ash carter on capitol hill saying we will rely on special operations troops to battle radical jihadists in syria and iraq, sending more troops to syria and iraq. major announcements from mark zuckerberg announcing the birth of their daughter max, and selling facebook stock for charity. details coming up, 99% of their shares valued at $45 billion and giving it away. yahoo! stock is up in free market, the wall street journal reporting the company is considering selling its internet business. what that means for the struggling company and marissa meyer

mark: do you know where charles and david koch are? tim: i don't.ave any inside information. mark: your donor community, how do they feel about the prospect of donald trump as a nominee? tim: you would have to ask them. for mr. trump, the key for him and dr. carson, those two folks who aren't known for their policy -- they don't have a record of voting -- the important thing is going to be as specific as possible with what they will do on tax policy. i think trump and dr. carson need to do more of that. at least rubio and cruz have specific records we can look at. mark: most people in the donor network are business people. white wouldn't business people think a businessman would be good for president? why isn't there a groundswell to say, we've got a successful businessman here. he should be our nominee. tim: they look for policies. they say, what are you going to do with government overspending? what are you going to do about tax policy. it's more about the policy than the bio. mark: what hasn't he been specific enough on? tim: i think probably gov

charles: their network raised almost $900 million with the koch brothers. having put so much emphasis on the fact that billionaires play a role, maybe it's overstating. >> billionaires have played a role going back to nelson rock ferrell and jpmorgan. but this time is different. it's not just the trump factor. part of it is conservatives have risen up and realize they must engage or they will continue to have candidates shoved down their throat like the john mccain, like bob dole, like mitt romney, and this time they won't sit down for it because they believe for the first time ever that their children's future is at stake. charles: so far this has been different than anything we have seen in our life times. ultimately who is the power broker. >> there could be a new power broke. each individual using the internet to have an impact and give money. we are seeing that as well. the unknown, the unexpected. the person who will be able to use that. it makes us as individuals more of a player because we can collectively put or $pen and -- our $10 and $20 to make

neil: who doesn't want this to be -- obviously on the heels -- charles: a great point, not the first person to do this, and kochrtheid in the 80s, investment from the city pension fund out of south african companies and country bonds. i wonder what practical impact this will have. we should point out that the controller, the mayor has some role. i have to check my facts but the controller largely invests pension fund assets of the city -- neil: they're very politically correct, these guys. charles: they have a fiduciary responsibility, you are supposed to care about shareholders first. neil: we won't invest in tobacco stocks but tobacco stocks are doing well. charles: a lot of times they follow indexes so it doesn't matter. so this seems like -- charles: i criticize him all the time what the konrad has a lot in common with republicans. neil: he was -- jimenez like -- he is the mayor. he is it mayor of the city so you don't agree with him. >> the mayor who honeymooned in cuba -- neil: were annoyed because you were in the poconos. charles: it is marginal. does smith and wesson care about mayor bill deblasio's pen

decided to launch what was for them, they were the largest funder of disinformation until david and charles koch came along. first of all, again, people who have the financial resources and understand this issue after the fund information. i don't think there's any question about that. i hope we get more the attorneys general who pursue the kind of case that the new york attorney general is pursuing, very comparable to what happened with the tobacco case. we can at least learn that who knew what when, and perhaps people can be shamed into a certain behavior change. but, you know, money and profits drive behavior, and the tobacco companies haven't gone away. and people do still smoke. i think again is just encumbered upon everybody to be part of the information campaign, and that requires everyday people who would rather not talk about the subject becoming better at learning how to talk about it and then going out and talking about it. >> so, robert joseph, your close both brilliant scholars, and every bit of this has been really informative. i've just been a couple of days after greenbelt confer