charles koch who or has watched and participated in nairobi strikes from nation does he see any call to duty with the city of the one nine hundred seventy s. they call him he has changed the population has changed the port difference because into meanly there been a zation so many things have changed that that never abuse certainly wouldn't be there a lot of the a bit of it is there a bit of the specter of nairobi that is the agreement so we don't feel but infrastructurally we've got a totally different city and that process of change if anything seems to be accelerating in recent years it's actually what you call it it's it changes year on year on year out narrow b. ten years ago is a totally different era b. from the narrow be ten years prior to that and if you actually move it a little short and there will be in five years changes a lot in two years ten years a lot. of the infrastructure definition of roads in the last five years alone in the city of nairobi is so much that a person who was here five years ago would actually need a gated to it to get there we are all giant roads t

charles: the koch brothers plan starts wednesday. safe streets and second chances in four states.hink it's great news. it's shocking because it's coming from people when were told were racist and they were going to throw everybody in jail and lock the key and throw it away. >> this is exciting news. i think we have seen democrats and republicans try to get it done last time and it got blocked in the house of representatives. this started as a war on drugs created at the end of the nixon presidency. now we have to work on solving it. but here is the problem with trump policy. it's going to be about the implementation. who will be implementing it? a lot of this work will happen at the justice department. you have attorney general jeff sessions who has been a little bit murky on how we do criminal justice. charles: can you be a law and order person and believe in redemption? >> absolutely. but we haven't seen that in the prior administration. jeff sessions allowed more more federal money to go to private prisons. if we are going to do prison reform we have to end private prisons. cha

. >> he believes the reporting about him from liberal media, if charles koch you see him yelling at the to go down. donald trump, economic populism goes back to interviews in the 70's, he thought the united states was getting raw deal on trade and stood for himself and brand before steve bannon and roger stone and he will continue with that, i suspect, more deeply held beliefs with or without bannon's support. >> jonah, this is a news alert actually, you will have to react to it in realtime like i am, the associated press just reporting through source that is the president is expected this week to extend relief from economic sanctions to iran as part of the nuclear deal, that just came out from the associated press, jonah? >> to extend relief? >> that's exactly how it's phrased, from economic sanctions, so extend relief from economic sanctions, in other words -- >> i think it's interesting. i'd have to read more about it. it sounds like he's looking for a little bit of a breather for protests to play out. >> maybe buying himself some time, that's what i was thinking through too but give

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