charles koch and probably even more. >> no, absolutely.luence they have over the white papers and the thinking that's coming out of the conservative inc., the react. again, people are identifying this as the true conservative movement. i lost all belief and faith and trust that that is what conservatism was about years ago. and, in fact, i think we have to really reconsider what the conservative movement actually is not only what it's advocating but actually who is funding it and what are its priorities? is it priorities this billionaire class of vulture capitalists or is it actually on behalf of the american worker and the american people? i have to tell you, tucker, i think we are kind of living in aliewlings right now. we say we have a republic of we the people for the people. i would argue we haven't had that for decades. the people that are supposed to be defending and advocating for it. they abandoned that a long time ago so they could have six and seven figure salaries and marble bathrooms with gold plated bathrooms. this is getting

up next, billionaires, george soros and charles koch are working together.y hope to influence american foreign policy in a specific direction. and we are going to tell you what that direction is. you will find it surprising, i assure you. you may also find it appalling. we take that up and much more with retired army colonel douglas mcgregor. some people say "dress your age." that's ridiculous. i dress how i feel. yesterday i felt bold with boundless energy. this morning i woke up calm and unbreakable. tomorrow? who knows. age is just an illusion. how you show up for the world, that's what's real. what's your idea? i put it out there with a godaddy website. make the world you want. lou: billionaires george soros and charles koch are teaming up, use their joints political influence to try to end what they call preventative wars and military interventions to overthrow regimes that do not threaten the united states. does that sound familiar to anyone? talking about ending endless wars and keeping american troops at home and bringing them home from abroad. these

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[laughter] >> the question is what happens when charles koch steps away. there is the education of his son who was born in 1977 and when he was born they hung up the banner in the office of the industries that welcomed him. that is the burden that he had his whole life. he had been given a fascinating education at the institution from the age of seven. for all of that, he's a remarkably levelheaded guy that had support in the midst of this switch answer your question after he steps away i think potentially he will run the corporation. the big question is in the future. how much of this explosive growth that we saw the last 50 years was attributable to an individual and how much o of tht is attributable to what he wants to point which is a corporate culture, the institutions he spit into place. he said the company will continue to grow without and really only time will answer that question. >> thank you very much. sir. >> i would be remiss not to say that this dÉjÀ vu all over aga again. your book, your whole conversation is reminiscent the history of stand

of those groups, but you wouldn't necessarily know that group had anything to do with david or charles koch. >> because a lot of groups have these very bland names, america future fund or americans for job security. who is that really? what you would realize if you go through the paperwork, it was like a daisy chain of money. and if you were able to trace it back, a lot of it would come from this group of 400 of the richest, most conservative people in the country who work with the kochs and funded it. >> in may of 2019 the koch network rebranded with a new name, stand together. and in this incarnation, it says it's open to supporting democrats who are pro dreamers anti-tariff. no matter what the name and reported orientation, it is sure to remain a potent political force. >> after dozens of phone call, i'm basically striking out. >> okay. it's a no. okay, thanks. bye. so far it's not going so good. the reason so many members of congress probably don't want to talk about this is because money equals power in politics. and to bite the hand that feeds you is probably not a good proposition to

collins, charles koch says her race is a tossup. in 2016.ne by 3% i was curious what you think -- if mitch mcconnell tries to railroad this process without any new evidence or witnesses, what does someone like susan collins -- if she votes to acquit, she will trot -- she will probably lose receipt. -- lose her seat. eleanor: thank you for the kind words. you have put it as the facts. i do like to go out and gather information, the quotes, get everyone's perspective. that is my style. susan collins has been walking a tight rope her entire political career. had significant problems when she voted for cavanaugh after the supreme court. not so much the vote she cast but that she held open her vote for quite a long time. then went to the senate floor and gave a half hour long speech of the agonizing. then she supported him. say, she goes through all this but in the end she is not there for us. she has lost support among women. she cannot win if she does not have the trump base with her either. the president is courting her and others. he

charles koch says her race is a tossup. 30%.illary won in 2016 by i am curious what you think.tch mcconnell tries to just railroad this process right on evidenceithout any new or winces coming forth, what does someone like susan collins who, if she votes to acquit under that kind of circumstance, she will probably lose her seat is what i think. i was curious what you thought. and again, thank you for carrying on the journalistic tradition. guest: thank you for the kind words. i grew up as a reporter at "newsweek" magazine, so you put it as just the facts, but i do like to go out and gather the getrmation, get the quotes, everybody's perspective. that is my style. susan collins has been walking a tightrope for her entire political career. she had significant problems when she voted for brett kavanaugh for the supreme court. not so much the vote she cast votehat she held open her for quite a long time and then went to the senate floor and ofe a half hour long speech all this agonizing and, in the end, she supported him. and a lot of women say, well, she goes through all this, but