the inmate is charles manson. >> we have some manson memorabilia that charles manson has created since been incarcerated here at corcoran. >> during one of our shoots at california state prison corcoran, our crew barely got a glimpse of manson before he covered up his window. a recent mug shot shows how much he has aged since first coming to prison in 1971. but his artwork provides a unique insight into his life behind bars. >> here a scorpion that he's made. basically, taking thread from various types of items, socks and t-shirts and towel, he creates it and uses -- it looks like a marker to color. this is probably one of the items that he makes the most of. spiders. i would assume this is something like a harp. and he's made it out of toilet paper and newspaper. it looks like some dental floss, a small stick, and probably for the coloring, he used kool-aid to get the coloring for it. >> why do you have it? >> he's not allowed to have it. occasionally, we go through and do cell searches and confiscate all items. he doesn't have a hobby card and other inmates try to sneak it out and pu

>> i think the reports on charles manson, this really doesn't compare in some way, i think charles manson may have had some sort of music background. my belief of this magazine, "the rolling stone," has something to do with music and i don't believe this young man has anything to do with music. i don't see the connection there. as far as businesses like cvs and cumberland farms and roach brothers pulling it, i applaud them for their effort. >> "rolling stone" did address the issue in a statement yesterday, saying, in part, "the fact that dzhokhar tsarnaev is young and in the same age group as many of our readers makes it all the more are important for us to examine the complexities of this issue and gain a more complete understanding of how a tragedy like this happens. what do you say to their response saying that their readers are pretty much the same age and therefore they need to express this story as intimately as they can? >> well, i think that you you hit the nail on the head as far as the readers being of the age. i think that's what their intention was. i believe the magazine's in

he is like al capone meets the unabomber stuffed inside voldemort and smothered in a creamy charles manson sauce. and tonight i do more than just bring him to justice. i bring him to basic cable. jim? >> america is a great nation. built on a foundation of sacred texts. but some people don't understand that. they demand we embrace their deviant lifestyle. >> are you saying it's perverted? it's not that way. it's something beyond your prejudiced point of view. >> this man wants to redefine traditional relationships. >> i'm lynn harrell, and i'm a concert cellist. >> and lynn harrell is one of the people destroying america. >> how dare you. for years, concert kreflist lynn harrell has flown the globe. on a plane like that one right there. that's a plane. >> london, paris, rome, new york, san francisco, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. >> and he's always joined by his life-time companion. >> mr. cello harrell. and lynn harrell demands his partner, mr. cello sit in a cabin seat. but one airline is fighting back. the most american airline, delta. >> delta airlines kicked me out of their sky mile

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simpson or charles manson. [ cheers and applause ] why hent that dude put out any good music lately? he was my favorite beach boy. now folks, i'm going to shock some people right now by defending rolling stone magazine. they're just using controversy to gain attention. let's face it. the magazine industry is dying. i don't know why. i think it may have caught something from sitting in all those doctors' offices. now besides, rolling stone is not doing anything that has not been done by other magazines. i mean, we all remember when men's health had their controversial cover. hitler's final solution for belly fat flew off the shelves and cosmopolitan's 50 ways to make your man say americans must pay with blood for the death of muslims abroad. warning. number 5 is whvment whistling) rolling stone, listen up. i am not going to bite on your controversy bait here and give you free publicity by holding up your magazine and talking about it. nice try. you see, i'm not a guy who just buys whatever the latest hype is. no, i'm waiting for the next hype to come out because that's going to be gre

. >> reporter: among them, this 1970s special report featuring charles manson on its cover.s time around, major distributors are declining to sell the issue. cvs, walgreens, and it aid won't stock it. >> it likely won't hurt rolling stone. experts say only about 5% of their sales are in retail outlets. >>> a sweet deal for college students who need subsidized loans. u.s. senators are offering lower interest rates through 2015. undergrads, their rates can be as high as 8.25 percent. graduate students 9.25%. earlier this month, student rates doubled from 3.4% to 6.4 >>> tonight the aclu is calling attention to a law enforcement practice that records license plates ofar on the street and in driveways. some readers are mounted to police cars, others are mounted on bridges and buildings. police say this is a great tool to fight crime. but the aclu says the data is being stored with few privacy protections. >>> new at 10:00, you could soon be seeing a new kind of california license plate. >> reporter: imagine your license plate no longer metal but a computer screen. registration w

. >> everybody used that photo and this is magazine that put charles manson on the cover back in 1970s magazine is about. the story itself by janet is absolutely riveting. >> it is great. >> jon: one of cops they're released photos of his own what he really looked like when they dragged him out of the boat. that was his response to what the magazine had done. let's turn our attention to another story. a jury was selected on tuesday, a panel they call it in the military for the court-martial of major nadal hassan. accused of the fort hood massacre. he is charged with 13 counts of plea pre meditated murder and 31 counts attempted in premeditated murder, trial date august 6th. have you seen much coverage? >> not much. i think the media has an intrinsic fear to report anything that relates to radical islam. several wire stories refer to him as a militant. this is true tral word that has nothing to do with what he did and saying he is was inspired by the koran and god to do this. the media shrinks from this but be forced to cover it. >> the shooting was november 5th, 2009. no doubt when he

. >> this is a magazine that put charles manson on the cover when they got a jailhouse interview with is what the magazine is about. i understand people are upset but the story itself is absolutely riveting. >> jon: one of cops that was there the night when he was arrested what he really looked like. that was his response to what the magazine had done. let's turn our attention to another story, a jury was selected on tuesday, a panel they call it in the military for the court-martial for major nadal hassan, accused in the fort hood massacre. charged with 13 counts of premeditated murder, 32 counts of attempted murder. faces the death penalty if convicted. trial date august 6th, have you seen much coverage? >> not much. i think the media has intrinsic fear about reporting anything that relates to radical islam. wire stories refer to hassan as a militant. this is a neutral word that has nothing to do what he did and saying he was inspired by the koran and his god to do this. the media really don't like it. they will be forced to cover it unfortunately. >> shootings were november 5th, 20

. >> among them this 1970 special report featuring charles manson on his cover. time around major distributors are declining to sell the issue. cvs, walgreens and rite aid won't stock it they say out of respect for victims. >> they deserve to have retcher cushions. >> the temporary boycotts likely won't hurt rolling stone. advertising experts say only about 5% of rolling stone's sells are in retale outlet. christin ayers. >>> coming up, the bay area rebters who say all hell has broken loose in their building because of rowdy google interns. >>> stranded at the state fair. >>> and the license plate of the future that could be coming to california cars. it even pays your toll. >>> how you can get into heaven faster with twitter. >>> who knew the power of social media. hey, live look outside cloud cover, yes.,,,,,, it's happening now. people are switching to finish... ... and it's spreading all across america. quantum with new power gel delivers amazing clean and shine, even in the hardest water, which cascade just can't do. take the finish shine challenge with quan

in 1970, charles manson appeared on "rolling stone's" cover, and other news magazines have had controversial covers, including hitler and osama bin laden on the front of "time." >> i think that "rolling stone" committed an act of journalism in both publishing this photo and publishing the story that they did. >> reporter: but the photo is generating strong reactions from so many. john yang, nbc news, chicago. >>> overseas tonight, confirmation from edward snowden's lawyer that snowden has, in fact, applied for temporary asylum in russia. he did so in a very brief request, informal to say the least, handwritten, because his lawyer said this would look more convincing. snowden hopes to receive an i.d. card within days, permitting him to leave the moscow airport finally, where he has been stuck for more than three weeks. the u.s., of course, is not happy about this. republican senator lindsey graham even suggested the u.s. consider a boycott of next year's winter olympics in russia. >>> in great britain, the expectations are getting greater by the hour, as the world anticipates the birth of the

gain more understanding of the boston tragedy and says in 1970, consult leader mass murderer charles manson was on the cover of one of its best selling issues. >>> people outside the nation's capital are having to cut their water usage in the midst of a heat wave. 200,000 people are being told to avoid long showers and think twice before flushing the toilet. a water pipeline needs emergency repairs in prince george's county, maryland. it is in danger of exploding! officials initially said faucets would run dry for days but they found a way to keep the water flowing. >> as soon as i heard about what was going on, i filled up all the glasses with tap water and the bottles and then i took a shower, of course, then i filled up the tub with water and left it there just in case. >> engineers say the nation's aging infrastructure is at a breaking point and repairs like this will be needed more often. >>> good now for college students. u.s. senators just reached a deal to restore lower interest rates on student loans. that decision comes after urgent negotiations to undo a recent rate hike. on july

to print to counterfeit money he's a serial financial killer he's the these the you know the charles manson of banking so he's perfect to run the fed of course when he was in the clinton white house he was part of he was considered one of the biggest brains out there right he was the guy who set us on the course along with robert rubin to regulate everything and he was also here ahead of president of harvard so a guy who's supposed to be smart he's the guy who's known to be smart and yet he engaged in these derivatives that blew up into a disaster so these are the same things being sold to passive funds across the world that have blown up passive funds and nations across the world and cities across the world because they also bought these these were being sold to unsuspecting investors and he was a suspecting investor and didn't understand how to detroit's pensions fail so badly one of the many shocking aspects of the bankruptcy and there are many but one of them is how quickly their pensions fell into deficit because they were actually in surplus in two thousand in two thousand and two two

. >> reporter:convicted killer charles manson was featured in 1970. >> reporter:some people say this tsarnaev cover shot looks a lot like the doors lead singer jim morrison in this cover shot that ran decades ago. many think the cover of rolling stone should be reserved for music stars.or at the very least.not accused terrorists. the tsarnaev cover popped up on line early this evening.and already more than 130 comments on our kron-4 facebook fan page. >>gaea: wondering why its a picture to make him look like the average rock star and not a mug shot. the picture chosen seems inappropriate- bad editor, bad! >> rachelle: its appropriate for time not rolling stone >>ana: this is why stupid people do what they do! lets make them all the center of attention. >> reporter:many people say they will not buy another copy of rolling stone. tsarnaev is being held without bail. last month he pleaded not guilty to 30 counts related to the may bombings at the >> catherine: a north korean ship detained in panama was reportedly hiding parts of a weapons system in its cargo of brown sugar. u-s official

we have seen presidents and a killer, we have seen charles manson on that cover.time magazine we saw the columbine killers. why is this different? >> look at my twitter feed every single time there is a mass assault i'm out there tweeting, we have seen the mug shot, the person is in custody, you can get it go now. if somebody is a wanted man or woman, put their picture up to find them, or find out information about them but beyond crime-solving purposes there's no reason to do that. "rolling stone" could easily put one of heros on the cover or one of the survivors, and then back that up, you know, with an article the way it is. but i think the problem is they haven't tried, and until the media makes as strong of effort to promote the survivors or here rose as they do the killers, they can't make the argument well, if it leads, it leads. how do they know? >> i want to ask you a question. what about "rolling stone"'s argument that one of their reasons of putting him on the cover was to visually show that terrorists look like in many cases so many young americans. >>

charles manson, remember that one. i'm sure there are others we could point to. number one.ber two they don't glorify this kid by putting him on the cover. if you read the cover the cover actually says, here it is, the bomber is the headline and it says here's what the story inside is all about. right under his photo. how a popular promising student was failed by his family, fell into radical islam and became a monster. >> by the way -- >> bill: they call him a monster. >> we tweeted out the cover. we just tweeted a picture of the cover. no link or anything. just go follow us. you'll see it right there. >> bill: take a look at it. if you look at him, he doesn't look like an evil person but i think that's the point. he didn't start out as an evil person. he became an evil person and they call him the monster and i haven't read the article but "rolling stone" is a good magazine. they do some damn good reporting. remember the general -- >> mcchrystal. done by michael hastings. it was a huge story. >> bill: damn good reporting in "rolling stone." from people i've talked to who h

. >> remmy, my first guess is that your first crush is charles manson. >> who told new. >> he did.rrespond via carrier pigeons. >> who cares. i have said this on your show over and over again because every time i'm on apparently tatum is a topic that we have to discuss. >> yes, it is a topic we have to discuss. >> what is the big deal? am i the only woman -- >> yes, you're the only woman. >> who doesn't find him -- i'm not drawn to this actor. >> you will be drawn right the heck out of here. take your butt right now, woman. >> he made me see "magic mike." >> i made you? you are lying. >> i fell asleep. >> you are disgusting. >> i want you to sleep eternally after saying that. >> jesse, let's try to ignore everything she said. your childhood crush was an over weight circ at the 7-eleven. she used to give you free 5-hour energy drinks at the counter in exchange for not pooping at the frozen food aisles. >> bubbaloo was not fat, she was husky. slow news day. he was hoping that the 4th of july story would be a stevo firecracker story. instead it's this [ bleep ]. i would say mine was p

he's so evil that charles manson carved hi dick cheney's name ons forehead and he'll remind us that georgew. bush's greatest event in office was staying alive. he bankrupted the company but made the company halliburton that gave him $32 billion of your money, there is so much war mongering he opposed the healthcare to save you but government healthcare saved him, and you paid for it. he's a gift of comics even though comedians always compare him to darth vader, since fair since darth vader never avoided military service. that brings us to liz cheney. reporters asked senator enzi about his buddy's daughter, aren't you friends? he replied i thought we were friends. it's great to see someone like liz willing to divide the g.o.p. because she decided that someone else has her job. she exemplifies cronyism. and her gigs from fox news to the mitt romney campaign all came from her dad making phone calls. if it wasn't for overprivileged right wing children getting by on their daddy's name, it's the gift that keeps on going. liz refused to admit that barack obama was an american citizen, she also sa

. >> reporter: rolling stone has been down this road before, with a cover of charles manson and a nude john lennon and yoko ono. in the end, the magazine could end up selling more issues than before the controversy. live in burlingame, ken wayne, ktvu, channel 2 news. >>> san jose police released statistics today showing overall crime is down in the first half of the year. but the number of homicides is up. police issued the crime report from january through june. it shows aggravated crime dropped about 10%. but there were 25 homicides in the 1st half of the year. that is an increase of 33%. gang related violence, though, is down nearly 16%. >> we're sending cite a few of them out there. those officers are accruing overtime. is it sustainable? no. everyone involved understands that. right now though is when it's needed. >> san jose police plan to keep an increased number of officers in that gang suppression unit at least through the summer. >>> a transient well known to police is behind bars tonight, suspected of setting that fire at a seed store. investigators say surveillance video h

. >> reporter: rolling stone has been down this road before, with a cover of charles manson and a nude john lennon and yoko ono. in the end, the magazine could end up selling more issues than before the controversy. live in burlingame, ken wayne, ktvu, channel 2 news. >>> san jose police released statistics today showing overall crime is down in the first half of the year. but the number of homicides is up. police issued the crime report from january through june. it shows aggravated crime dropped about 10%. but there were 25 homicides in the 1st half of the year. that is an increase of 33%. gang related violence, though, is down nearly 16%. >> we're sending cite a few of them out there. those officers are accruing overtime. is it sustainable? no. everyone involved understands that. right now though is when it's needed. >> san jose police plan to keep an increased number of officers in that gang suppression unit at least through the summer. >>> a transient well known to police is behind bars tonight, suspected of setting that fire at a seed store. investigators say surveillance video h

they had a charles manson cover. that was an issue and article that won journalistic awards. i'm sure i don't remember. i was one. your parents hadn't even met, but do you think it's similar? here is a horrific crime that everything is talking about, and they're not glam rising it, but they do do serious journalism. >> this is why your job and the job journalists do is tough. you deal with these at the st.sh as simple things as when a fan runs on the field, they they do that activity, so these are tough things journalists weigh when you look at really different important issues, but making sure we're not gives people who do bad things what they said, which is publicity. >>> fenway strategies, is the name of your organization named after some baseball park somewhere? i'm not really sure. there's a team involve with it. >>> should athletes that train for years give up their dreams bomb ward snowden, one republican senator says yes. i'll talk to lindsey graham, next. is she hoping for a prince or princess? the queen gets asked touch questions. [ mrs. hutchison ] friday night has

i had a canadian serial killer brag i'm much more important, much bigger than charles manson. >> we have multiple murders it appears or at least three bodies found. does that in and of itself constitute the hallmarks of a serial killer? >> serial killer is man that killed at least three people over a period of time. these women seem to have been killed over the past seven to ten days. it is a serial killing case and if this guy madison is accurate in what he's suggesting, there may be more victims out there. unfortunate is that how often serial killers are able to get away with these sorts of crimes, particularly when the victims are black female. we as a society tend to marginalize victims of that sort and serial killers oftentimes prey on them without attention by the community. >> wow. sad details on that. all right. looks like we lost that satellite shot. james allen fox joining us there. >>> norwegian woman sentenced to prison after reporting she had been raped. she sat down with cnn to tell her story and hear from her next. dad. how did you get here? i don't know. [ speaking in rus

>> i would say he is the charles manson of the investment world. >> narrator: once living in the lapbernie madoff isn't going away quietly. >> bernie, in a loud voice, said, "[bleep] my victims." >> narrator: what is life really like for bernie madoff behind bars? >> every time i saw him, he had a smile on his face, you know?

simpson or charles manson. >> make sure people know if they're reading it next to you. >> we know whend, "cosmopolitan's". >> so far at least nine companies are now boy coiting it. >> i am not going to bite on your controversy bait here, okay? and give you free publicity by holding up your magazine and talking about it. >> we don't live in mr. snowden's russia, we live in the united states of america. >> very first reaction was ew. >> thank you, detractors, please, with your tedious outrage machine. >> totally sympathetic to the people in boston, including the mayor, including some of the officers who were sod. >> richard donohue, the officers who was shot in a standoff. >> they could have gone with a classier cover. >>> let's get right to our panel. joining us is tourre, and mckay. i'm going to start with you, mckay. this raises a number of issues, from freedom of speech to a brilliant marketing campaign by a magazine. mckay, given that we do not show repeatedly planes flying into the twin towers, do you have some sympathy with those who say, just from a taste perspective, this was a

you had in 1970 charles manson was on the cover.me" magazine has had hitler and usama bin laden on the cover. >> bill: can i stop you right there? that's a menacing cover. that's not justin beiber. okay? nobody has any problem with that "time" magazine's man of the year not a good or bad person. person who influences the world the most. hitler would be in context there and so would usama bin laden. this is on attempt be warm and fuzzy with with this guy and that's why so many people are angry. >> it's an attempt to sell magazines frankly. it is a bold merchandising ploy. >> it's not working. >> when you read the article it's pretty good. it shows the young man, you know, adrift,. >> bill: nothing new in it we already knew that it's not well reported but it's not glorifying him. all of the cancellations that "rolling stone" is having. >> c.v.s., 7/11 just joined. they are boycotting. stop and shop is boycotting. >> this is people have had enough. >> bill: well, that's how you indicate your dislesh in this country. just boycott it. hu

they put charles manson on the cover in 1970. does that make it okay? >> no. absolutely i believe this is a perfectly fine iteration of journalism. i think it is cowardly that "rolling stone" would not put their journalist out front to defend it because i think it is an easy thing to defend. what you have here is a story about a guy who was a very, very integrated and well balanced by all accounts member of our society until something happened. we don't know precisely what happened. that was the point of this story to account for how he slid off the rails. i think it is quite a good account. i think it is a good story and i think the photo goes right with the story. if you care about how this happened i think you have to credit row "rolling stone" with spending two months on the story. nobody is saying thanks for taking a look at this person who created so much destruction. i think if you are in favor of enlightenment over ignorance you have to applaud what "rolling stone" did and you have to site as cowardly what the corporations have done which is refuse to

you have charles manson back in 1970. on the cover. >> dick cheney. >> dick cheney one time. >> in a speedo but that's the choice they made. >> cenk: let's stop here for a second and discuss. i'm curious what you all think. i actually think that they're right to be pissed. the people are right to be pissed, and i know cbsvs and walgreen's have already pulled it. was it unsolicited without anyone saying anything, i totally remembered the jimmy morrison cover and i thought man, that looks like jimmy morrison. and the title is called "the bomber" which almost sounds cool in some weird way. >> exactly, and i tried to make sure that during all that coverage that i didn't call him the boston bomber because it sounded like a baseball player. i didn't want to give that impression. with the newtown shooting, i never say the guys' name because i don't want to make these guys famous. charles mason became enormously famous and it feeds into it. i don't like this cover. i'm a first amendment guy. they got all the right in the world to

simpson or charles manson.e all remember when men's health had their controversial cover, hitler's final solution for belly fat flew off the shelves and cosmopolitan's 50 ways to make your man say americans must pay with blood for muslims abroad. >>> rolling stone magazine has kicked a hornet's nest wide open showing the boston bomber looking like a rock star. it's similar to other rock stars. boston's mayor tom menino called it a toto disgrace. death threats have reached the office. "the new yorker" said the controversy or nontraversy said just because something sparks outrage and i tend to agree with that. full disclosure, i worked at rolling stone for ten years and i can put that aside and say, guys, i don't find it to be a controversy or something to be outraged about. you know, we all see this person as a monster. i think everybody in america or almost everybody in america is clear on that. the cover calls him a monster. they don't use his name so they're really sort of dehumanizing him in that way. what i

it's a hard news publication -- >> they always have celebrities and rolling stone had charles mansonn their cover and others. it's not always rock stars. what is the difference between time hmagazine doing it and rolling stones? >> i don't think rolling stone is on the other side of the spectrum. it's not glamour magazine. rolling stone does serious stories. i think of them being the publication that published the priest of general mccrystal that cost him his job. this is a publication that once tries to capture the popular culture and at the same time does serious journalism about serious things. >> you read the piece, right? >> i read most of it. >> to me as i say, when you read it the image is less a fence sieve. you get why they chose this image. he was a normal, good looking guy, into society, college, friendly, lots of people liked him and then boom, suddenly he goes from that in a matter of a year and a half to two years radicalized -- >>his picture, although it has the word monster as the final word signaling what the story is about, the evolution of that point to be the bomb

. >> but "rolling stone" is no stranger to controversy having put charles manson on its cover in 1970 and roman polanski in 1981. in an interview with npr wednesday, the magazine's managing editor defended the decision. >> this is a person who is the same age as many of our readers who to his peer group seemed like one of them. and that's what we thought made the story so powerful and disturbing and it is in no way to endorse or glorify what he did. i think the opposite, trying to understand it and explain it. >> yosh josh is a print magazin dude. to you first on this. talk a little bit about -- i mean i am of the thought that -- i will read a quote from the "boston globe," op-ed that sort of puts it all in context. it is a very "rolling stone" image but it is accompanied by a very un"rolling stone" cover line -- the bomber how a popular promising student was failed by his family, fell into radical islam and became a monster." that's pretty unequivocal and something newspapers like this one have taken great pains to avoid. it convicts him. lechl of outrage this has provopr zbls. >> th

into a maximum security prison that housed some of the nation's most notorious inmates including charles manson and sir han sir han. it was a prison with a reputation for gangs and violence. we discovered another side of corcoran. one that was tied not to its infamy, but to its location. in the heart of california's most fertile agricultural basin. >> come on, ladies, let's go. >> i had no idea there was a fully functioning dairy farm at corcoran prison before we got there. it was interesting because the inmates that worked on the dairy farm loved their jobs. i think it was the fact that they were around these animals and they were caretaking them and creating something that was valuable. it gave them a sense of purpose that i didn't often see at corcoran. >> this is a good opportunity right here. i live in bakersfield and there's a lot of dairies around there. so hopefully when i get out, the hours i accumulated here give me a job opportunity when i get out. >> i like it. it's better than dealing with the prison. you know? it's a lot better. i enjoy getting away from the yard and working with

the magazine featured a photo of serial killer charles manson on june 19, 1970 cover. >> heather katieing stone is about music! not the new, you want >> to go to time magazine, i will not be buying rolling stone any longer,. >> ana gutierrez, stated " this is why stupid people to do what they do! let's make them all the center of attention. >> wes carter, stated i wonder how many people right now are thinking of how they can get on the cover of a magazine. what will they do to do it? some people do not care what happens to other people what so ever. as long as they " go out in style ". >> you can join the conversation on our kron 4 face book page. >> the time is 5:44 a.m.. here is a look at the conditions outside the door. the visibility is good. the traffic is not good everywhere in fact, the timing of this walnut creek accident. >> it is bad enough now that there are two separate accidents on 680 south bound. this is between the two they have both the left and right side of the lanes blocked at different locations. the traffic is having to zigzag back and forth. it is backed up all a

and the example of charles manson being on it in 1970 has been brought up. i don't actually find that very compelling. also it's 1970. >> i think that was more distasteful than this. i think the manson one was glamorizing manson. here's my feeling about this image. first of all, it seems people are mad at "rolling stone" because people find this person, this individual accused of an absolutely horrific disgusting crime physically attractive, he's a good looking young man and took a selfie. it seems to me part of the goal of this image is to make people stop and think about the line that separates a normal person from someone capable of doing something monstrous. >> yes. and that is what the article is about. the context of the article, this picture would be very appropriate and this photo was on the cover of "the new york times" and in a news context you could understand it and place it in context. on "rolling stone," on the cover, he looks like a stroke. he looks like a jonas brother. he looks like someone who would be dating taylor swift. >> right. >> he d