energy, their attorneys, and former supervisor who authored the creation of marin clean energy, charles mclash in, who has since passed away, a very untimely loss, and myself and members of the city attorney's office here in 2009 and 2010 for the express purpose of envisioning a jpa with marin. we were not sure if we were going to be able to break out of the yoke of pg&e back in those years so we were investigating efforts on several fronts. and one of those fronts was the legal construct of developing a jpa with marin should marin be able to progress. and i have to tell you, what they have been able to do in marin is quite impressive. and i don't think we should let their lessons be lost on us and shy away i think from what had been envisioned some years ago, that if san francisco can't do it on its own, then what we should do is huddle with the other municipalities, small, medium and large, and begin to rethink how a cca can grow, strength in number. and we may want to do that, i think, with marin and with any other municipality. and that's exactly what should happen. but i am so disappointe