charles mcneil. i had him come in. because we were getting ready to make a record. and he used to like that sax phone and that trumpet. we were getting ready to do another cd and i said why don't we add a trombone. that is when john burr man came in. and we had them ever since. it's been 158-20 years. >> when it comes to the choir, and i had the privilege of being there and i come to the choir rehearsals. how do you come on sun to select a song? you also select the songs. >> first i got to see what soloists are there. i tried to set the mood. for the preacher to preach. i think that is my primary job. and first you want to wake the people up. and then the next song you can't keep hitting them like that. you know. you got to wake them up. and then calm them down. and then fire back up. and so far it has worked. and something before the preacher preaches that really touching. really something. >> you are trying to bring the people in. you want to bring them into the spirit of what is going on at glide. and music touches the soul and the spirit. clues to somehow you do