one of the best saxophone players anywhere , charles mcneil.im to come in because we were making a record. and they like the saxophone in trumpet. we were getting ready to do another cd and i said , why don't we add a trombone? and that is when joe berman , came in. so we ended up with three horns. and we have had them ever since. it has been 15 , 20 years. >> when it comes to the choir and i had the privilege of being there and i have come to choir rehearsals. seem like you were hers throughout the night . you know. six to eight songs . how do you come on sunday and select a song. i know cecil has a lot to do with it but you also select the songs. >> first, i got to see what soloists are there. and i tried to set the mood , for the preacher to preach. i think that is my primary job. first you want to wake the people up so you don't want to start with nothing slow. >> okay. >> and the next song, you cannot keep hitting them like that. you have to wake them up. and calm him down. and then fire them back up. that is my way of doing it. and so far