charles mok thomas city councilmember, member of hong kong half legislative council, former presidentg information technology federation. also honorary president of the hong kong information technology federation. also tom grundy, thanks so much for being with us, hong kong based activist who organized the rally on saturday in defense of edward snowden. before break to mow we turned to laura poitras, e person now known as the new york times described her, the pivotal connection between the former government contractor edward snowden, the writers for the guardian, and the washington post, who published his leak documents about government surveillance. laura poitras had a byline on two of the key articles about the ongoing nsa revelation. she also filmed the guardian interview with edward snowden in hong kong when he went public with his identity on june 6. poitras is an award- winning filmmaker who has been discussing issues of right at the end surveillance long before this. her films include "the oath" and "my country, my country." the oath was about one, no -- was about guantÁnamo pr