we charles murray's new book cover big seller this spring. he talks about the fact the bottom 20% are marginalized. so what are you going to do? the question is not as success matter or is it real or is it not. that is what are we going to do to increase mobility? and their answers. a school system that exists for kids, that grown-ups. the civil rights crisis. it doesn't hurt my kids. it hurts kids in the bottom 20% and that's not right. everyone knows you're not supposed her poor people. you don't know that, you're raised by wolves. our school system marginalizes the poor automatically. school systems say they need her money. it's not true. we spend more and more money and we don't get the results. number two, which selfishly claimed all the benefits and blessings of the entrepreneurial culture for ourselves. we have not thought in any broad way about how to share the culture with the income distribution. what are we doing to bring people over the income it distribution into the culture? one of the things that kevin hassett who is her chief

as charles murray shows it is a white problem just like a black problem that is why the problem of poverty is so much worse because the programs of the government focus their attention. then they become dependence and lose the ability to launch with the surprise of enterprise. three see that in europe and in the united states is a pivotal loathsome -- movement and the u.s. can return to the entrepreneurial hall path. >> i think ultimately economics have in a moral foundation. capitalism is not based on doggy dogg. winners to 92 losers they conduct experiments that benefits everyone that is why it is the zero sum game it ultimately reposes on "the golden rule" of judeo-christian morality. the good fortune and others is also your own. the image of a of capitalism is the vicious of predatory is opposite. when you cut off the future block off creation then you do have the zero sum game everybody fights in the lobby of washington said is the ugly facet of the welfare state. >> host: george gilder i working with the romney campaign? >> i work for george romney who is in its bad. i wrote a book f

as charles murray shows, this is a white problem as much as a black problem. all the welfare state focused on the inner-city. that much worse in t that is why the problem of poverty is so much worse in the inner-city. that is because all these government programs focus their attention. when people become dependent on the state, they become dependent. and they lose the ability to launch the surprises of enterprise. we are seeing that in europe today, and we are increasingly seeing it in the united states. but i think that this is a pivotal moment, and i think that the u.s. can return to its entrepreneurial inspiration. >> so are you making a moral argument? you talked about all tourism in the birth rate and wedlock? >> i think that ultimately, economics has to have a moral foundation. capitalism is not based on dog eat dog competition. winners don't eat the losers. the winners conduct experiments and expand knowledge that benefits everyone. that is why capitalism is not a zero-sum game. it is a positive spiral of games for all. and it ultimately proposes the go

i published books like david brock, charles murray, jonah goldberg, and i've been doing that for a veryong time. when i start out doing it, nobody else was doing it. >> host: is that how you developed the niche? >> guest: i like to be contrarian, yes, the only person doing something. but it turned into a successful business, so now there are four imprints in main stream publishing that put out conservative books, including the one i run for harper collins. >> host: what books are coming out that you have been working on? >> host: well, two coming out in the fall, the first one is a book by chance kepler called "i am the change. barack obama ask the crisis of liberalism." this is a big political year so every conservative or intellectual who was thinking of publishing a book has one in the works, and my list is -- it tends to be as much as possible serious, intellectually serious. although because of the fact that now the left and the right have their own sphere of media discussions, it's very difficult to get a real controversy going as it was easier in the old days when there was only

charles murray wrote it but there has been no continued conversation about it. so, for me, the presidency opposes the problem and the opportunity of pointing out the limits of black representation achievement that the real world doesn't turn simply on the word of a single individual, and particularly the presidency. .. what do you say to a 12-year-old in light of the first presidency and in expectations of the second presidency in terms what they want to see in what kind of world they want to be living in. they means they have to be equipped to speak up for the rights they have, the entitle element they deserve, and a quality of life that should be govern -- guaranteed to them. [applause] >> i want you to -- [inaudible] lots of things, oarveg. it's an honor to be here. a place i discovered jean hudson many years ago. being from new york, went for a job, in fact i got a telegram, they don't do telegrams anymore do they? it said report to work at 9:00 a.m. i answered an ad in "the new york times" that said they needed a writer for the film. by golly, i sent a copy

charles evacuation. there is a forward in the book that put the letters in historical context and it is actually edited by murray's daughter. margaret your son. at first this but grabbed my attention because of my english canadian heritage, but ultimately i just like the way the letters slowly reveal the story of how these two families intertwined and about this child evacuation program during world war ii that i was completely unaware of until i read this book. i think it would have appeal to high-school students as well as to public libraries. thank you. [applause] >> hi. i'm hilary albert. my books are now filled with lots of pretty pictures. if anything the will but that has lots of pictures, the most disturbing images. these books are meant to be referred to repeatedly. they have something to offer everyone, something -- sometimes it may be for the high-school teacher, and sometimes is for the world leader, but the thing they have in common is that they teach a lesson, and that's important. nothing more important than giving knowledge. whether the reader walks away with the same knowledge is a different matte