nobody would touch this, but ryan did, and here he is. >> your buddy charles murray or bob putnam over at harvard, those guys have written books on this, which is we have got this tailspin of culture, in our inner cities in particular, of men not working and just generations of men not even thinking about working or learning the value and the culture of work. and so there's a real culture problem here that has to be dealt with. >> well, on sunday, "buzz feed" published the interview where congressman ryan basically pleaded ignorance here, saying "it doesn't even occur to me it could come across as a racial statement." but that's not the case, apparently, what i learned is there's a whole language and history that people are very sensitive to. understandably so. we just have to better understand, you know, we'll be a little clumsy, but it's with the right intentions. that's nonsense. i'm not saying he's an evil man or anything, but he's saying these people are a bunch of bums. that's what he's basically saying. >> he's the intellectual brightest light of the republican party. >> tell th

charles murray, no relation to bill, he thinks so. in the wall street journal, he has five tips to young people on how to live life to the fullest. they are consider marrying young, meaning like 26. learn how to recognize your soul mate. eventually stop spreading about fame and fortune. take religion seriously, and watch "groundhog seday" repeatedly. let's start with marriage. one of the things charles murray says when you're considering someone you might make a commitment to for marriage, you should not marry someone who has annoying habits you're not going to be able to overlook. >> it's so interesting you start with that point because i agree with everything he says in the essay except this. and the reason is, doesn't he realize, when you meet someone, they don't have any annoying habits. >> you don't know about them until later? >> they happen after you cohab tate with them for ten years. that's one thing. the other thing is i don't think it's that important because my wife and i, we probably annoy each other a lot, but you need t

and that got him into trouble, and that is what the people want to know, and does he embrace charles murrayngressman ryan has said that he is confronted at a town hall meeting in wisconsin, his home state, and he says that there was nothing whatsoever about race in his comments at all, and as you point out, you are looking for more light than heat, and what part of the conservation discussing his budget proposal and many of the cuts hurt the poorest in this country. >> yes. first of all, let's go back. >> sure. >> look. there's nobody in the country who will not agree at a moment of truth that when you are using certain terms, it suggests race and inner city men suggest race. and chairman ryan i think knows that, and if not, i think that we are going to have to try to create an atmosphere where he can learn things. but clearly, barbara lee who is chairing the democratic caucus committee on poverty and members of off that committee are going to push him hard on the budget proposals. >> and congresswoman lee has said that the comments made by ryan were a thinly veiled racial attack that canno

ei collar and best selling author of the bell curve, charles murray, is reading, the sun also rises, senior names and the history of social mobile,it. and a quick look at what schools are reading. >> up next, duke university proffer talks bit his book, the honest truth about dishonesty. ... >> during to learn from those students. >> host: what is behavioral economics? >> guest: the best way to contrast that we have the view of the human being to be perfectly rational you can look into the future to digest information and always make the right decision. there is the assumption that you assume this is the case. as unassuming and puts people in this situation how they behave. we see how they behave from time to time. in then because of that we have different predictions of what we should do if you build a policy for rational people and why might people be obese? they will eat better saw your post calorie information in the people would realize there is stopped immediately. it turns out that is not the case of tiny tiny changes but not real. if you think about the mistakes people make yo

we will have a frank conversation with charles murray tonight on "the independents"

it seems like conservatives like charles murray and think tanks, what they are doing is projecting on to or people all of the corruption and wickedness that they themselves are guilty of. fifteen years ago in the summer of 1999, roger ailes was a guest with brian lamb and it was instrumental with cnbc and rush limbaugh and all that. and then the specialist firm, accorsi blew off my question. within five years later the knee late something close to $250 million with fines on the specialist firms for frontrunning pÂtÉ. in one and you can address those questions. the country would be surprised to know that our nation is run by cocaine snorting frat boys. [laughter] and so it's really a crime if it's turned into a motion picture. so i think that liar's poker would be even better than the willful wall street. >> host: we have a lot of callers, let's leave it there. thank you. >> guest: i will start by recommending hollywood and listen to what you said. but one morning i have for the story that i just told, it is cause an uproar and more of an uproar than anything i have ever had in my life

. >> your body charles murray or bob putnam over at harvard, those guys have written books on this, which is we have this tailspin of culture in our inner cities of men not works, just generations of men not even thinking about working or learning the value and culture of work. so there's a real culture problem here. >> ooh, not the best choice of words. ryan tried to backtrack. he relates the statement -- after reading the transcript of yesterday mork's interview, it is clear i was inarticulate about the point i was trying to make. inarticulate, looking for an exit strategy, aren't you, congressman? paul ryan can try to whitewash the comments, but he can't whitewashle policies. he supports policies that attack minorities. here is paul ryan's 2015 budget, overall the republican pipe dream of a budget cuts $4.8 trillion out of the budget over the next decade. pretty big number. who is he hitting? 69% of the cuts come from people from low or moderate incomes. ryan wants to cut 3.3 trillion from programs like medicaid, and snap. during the 212 election, paul ryan lost his cool when asked, ho

who knew charles murray, the guy that wrote the bell curve was offensive to anybody.ere's what was said after today's meeting wrapped up. >> we appreciate chairman ryan coming to our meeting. didn't get a whole lot accomplished but we do agree on a number of things, one is that we are both concerned about the poverty in this country. we just disagree on how we address the problem. >> what is good out of this, we need to talk about better ideas on getting at the root cause of poverty to try and break the cycle of poverty. >> okay. that's not exactly what you'd call a breakthrough. congressman ryan claims he wants to help the poor. he even has ideas for that which you can find in his latest budget proposal which repeals the health care law even after 8 million people signed up for it and it guts every program men the to help people who are left out of the economic poverty, including turning medicare into a voucher. it ends funding for pbs. paul ryan wants to fire big bird. that must have been an interesting meeting. joining me now, california democrat barbara lee, one o

ei collar and best selling author of the bell curve, charles murray, is reading, the sun also rises, senior names and the history of social mobile,it. and a quick look at what schools are reading. >> up next, duke university proffer talks bit his book, the honest truth about dishonesty. ...

and best-selling author charles murray is reading the sun also rises. that is a quick look at what some of the scholars the american enterprise institute are reading. >> booktv attended the san antonio book festival in texas. in partnership with booktv. booktv covered several events from the san antonio public library on the federal debt, cesar chavez, local san antonio history, cracking, the nsa, a memoir from richard rodriguez and the poetry of kevin powers. we now pick up our coverage with bill wyatt on the history of federal debt limit. >> delights new book, america's fiscal constitution has just been published. a former three term mayor, he is chairman of the houston banking. ..

a long-ago favorite of conservative guru milton friedman and remains appealing to libertarian charles murray, who proposed a minimum income in a book called "in our hands": say, $12,000 per person per year in today's dollars, tax free up to a total of about $30,000 >> you have a system whereby every month, a check goes into an electronic bank account for everybody over the age of 21, that they can use as they see fit. they can get together with other people and then combine their resources. but they live their own lives. we put their lives back in their hands. >> reporter: and, enthuses veronique de rugy of george mason university's conservative mercatus center, we get their lives out of the hands of government bureaucrats. >> the current system is not serving poor people well. the appeal of the guaranteed minimum income is it doesn't dictate that people who gets this money how to spend it, and it assumes that they, better than anyone else in washington, know what they need. >> reporter: on the left, anthropologist and activist david graeber, a key cog in the occupy movement, is similarly di

. >> caller: it seems that conservatives like charles murray and all the conservative think tanks, they project on to poor people all of the corruption and wickedness that they themselves are guilty of. 15 years ago in the summer of '99, roger ailes was a guess with brian lam, and i called him up and roger ailes was instrumental in starting fox news and cnbc and rush limbaughs a career, and i asked mr. ailes.kellogg about the specialist firm that was front running the tape, and of course he blew off my question, but then five years later, the sec live veried something close to $250 million worth of fines on the specialist firms for front running the tape. so i was wonder if if you could address the questions of conservatives projecting -- i think the country will be surprised to know that our nation is run by cocaine snorting frat boys. it's really a crime if liars poker isn't turn into a major motion picture. i just saw "the wolf of wall street" and i think "liar poke we're be better. >> host: we have a lot of caller, let's leave it there. can i one in run particular direct -- >> host:

and then as our colleague, charles murray, pointed out well credentialed, affluent people stopped gettingorced. and people in his belmont. and people in fishtown are still getting divorced or, indeed, never getting married. and how do we maintain that balance if there's a moral component to it? i don't think you address that a lot in your book, and i'd be curious about tyler's idea and is there some way to quantify that? >> i think this is hugely important, and we tend to really underweigh it. i do talk in the book about russia where there was a lot of thinking in the early '90s as people tried to reconstruct the former soviet union that markets were just the absence of government. they were this natural inheritance that we had, and you just remove the government and now markets. and it turned out that was wildly wrong. there's an enormous amount of -- i think of it as the software of a society, right? the hardware is the capital, and then you can think of the operating system as the institutions in that country. the cultural capital that you have that helps the hardware run, that makes i

charles murray is behind that book and the wh brady scholar at the american enterprise. welcome.ks about politics, social class and you start a lot of controversys over th controva different tone. >> this was just for phone. i was writing tips for the staff of aei, started out i was getting pet peeves off of my mind, such as excise the word like from your spoken english and i had a few words to say about that, but then, martha, it was more serious. as i continued to write tips for the staff here, i ended up talking about the push suit of happiness, among other things. >> let's start with the first one, consider marrying young. not a lot of people do this. why is this a good idea? >> well, you know, it's ok if you wait until your 30s. there are lots of people marriages like that but if you get married at 25, 27, before either one of you are well established in your careers, then everything that happens after that, you have done together and if it's a good marriage, the memory of what it was like when everything was up in the air is a real bonds. >> i remember when my husband and i

i had the experience last year of reading charles murray's new book right after reading paul krugman's. they start in the same way, pure nostalgia for the 1960's, and almost in the same terms. and they are right. those are years we should miss. those are -- there is a lot about them to miss. but our policy has been geared around how to bring them back as opposed to how do we deal with today. both parties are intellectually exhausted at the same time in a way that is very bad for the country. >> the government was big. big labor was big and there was a lot of economic dynamism at the same time. that's true, but it doesn't mean we could do it today. >> so what is the future? the 60's were pretty good to me. i know you guys don't remember it. >> we weren't born then. >> that's why i enjoyed them. [laughter] >> one way to think about that is that an important difference between the two parties now is that democrats tend to think about the future in terms of large institutions. republicans, when they think about it at all, which is not enough, tend to think about it in more decentralized te

it seems like conservatives like charles murray and think tanks, what they are doing is projecting on to or people all of the corruption and wickedness that they themselves are guilty of. fifteen years ago in the summer of 1999, roger ailes was a guest with brian lamb and it was instrumental with cnbc and rush limbaugh and all that. and then the specialist firm, accorsi blew off my question. within five years later the knee late something close to $250 million with fines on the specialist firms for frontrunning pÂtÉ. in one and you can address those questions. the country would be surprised to know that our nation is run by cocaine snorting frat boys. [laughter] and so it's really a crime if it's turned into a motion picture. so i think that liar's poker would be even better than the willful wall street. >> host: we have a lot of callers, let's leave it there. thank you. >> guest: i will start by recommending hollywood and listen to what you said. but one morning i have for the story that i just told, it is cause an uproar and more of an uproar than anything i have ever had in my life

you can look her example i had the interesting experience last year reading charles murray's new book after reading paul krugman's conscious of a liberal. the book start exactly the same way with an introduction that is pure nostalgia for the 1960s and almost in the same terms and they are right. those were years that we should miss. there's a lot about them to miss that our politics is far too oriented around how can we bring that back rather than thinking about what does the world look like now and how can we make the most of america strings today? i think of parties or failing that. that's not just a conservative problem. both parties are intellectually exhausted and at the same time in a way that's very bad for the country. >> there is 50s the salsa. >> the government was big. if labor was big and there was a lot of economic dynamism at the same time. that doesn't mean we can do it today. >> so what is the future? the 60s were pretty good to me. [laughter] i know you guys don't remember it. you guys are are busy and nothing you call the internet. you say we are not looking back. >

experience last year of reading charles murray's new book right after reading paul krugman's. they start in the same way. they have an introduction that is pure nostalgia for the early 1960's. they are right, those were years that we should miss. politics is far too oriented around how can we bring that back rather than thinking about what is the world look like now and how can we make the most of american strength today. both parties are failing now. that is not just a conservative problem. both parties are intellectually exhausted in a way that is very bad for the country. >> there is 1950's nostalgia. >> big labor was buried. there was a lot of economic dynamism. that is true. it does not mean we could do it today. >> what is the future? the 60's were good to me. [laughter] you guys do not remember, you were busy on the internet. >> technically we were not born yet. >> that's why i enjoyed them. [laughter] on themore of the panel future of conservatism and i used to on c-span -- tonight at 8:00 eastern on c-span. president obama and vice president biden traveled to pennsylv

readinge experience of charles murray's new book right after reading the conscience of a liberal. both oaks start in the same way. earlynostalgia for the 1960's. they are right. those were years that we should mess. -- miss. but our politics is too oriented around how to bring that back rather than thinking about how the world looks now and how we can make the most of america today. that is most parties that are failing. not just the conservatives. both parties are intellectually exhausted anyway that is bad for the country. >> there is the soldier. >> the government was big. big labor was big. his there was a lot of economic dynamism. that is true. that doesn't mean we can do today -- do today. >> soars the future? -- so what is the future? the 60's were good to me. you say we are not looking back. >> technically, we weren't born then. >> that is why enjoyed them. [laughter] >> can see more of the panel on the future of conservatism eastern.night at 8:00 ofnext, firsthand stories amin's and chemical attacks in syria. a pop singer who was leading protests in the ukraine. alertconv

. >> the problem, though, is that he was quoting charles murray, who has been pouring racist sewage intofor a couple generations now. he has been pushing his theorys, white supremecy. . and ryan kwoeted him as one of the authorities. >> do you agree? does congressman ryan's citation of murray make his comments racial in nature? >> i think this is the problem. paul is really viewed at the intellectual hero of his caucus when it comes to all matters related to poverty and the budget. you can't be on one hand an intellectual and quote somebody like murray and say you didn't really know what their viewpoints were. murray is the i kwif lent of the fake scientist that existed long ago that tried to come up with scientific justifications for the enslavement of people and the inferiority of african-americans. that's what murray's quote/unquote research attempts the to document. you continue km in and say on one hand you're brilliant. on the other hand you're quoting something you didn't know what he believes. >> @ criticism many of your fellow democrats of ryan has as much to do with his budget

you can look, for example -- i had the interesting experience last year of reading charles murray's new book right after reading "the conscience of a liberal." they both start with an introduction that is pure nostalgia for the 1960's, and they are right. those were years that we should miss. there is a lot about them to miss. but our politics is far to oriented around can we bring that back rather than thinking what does the look like now and how can we make the most of america's strengths today? both parties are failing that. they are both intellectually exhausted in a way that is very bad for the country. >> there is 50's nascar tal gentleman for the unions and for labor. economic s a lot of dynamism, but that doesn't mean we can do it today. >> i know you guys don't remember the 60's. you were busy on that thing you call the internet. >> technically we weren't born then. >> not just technically, we really weren't. >> that is why i enjoyed them. [laughter] >> one way to think about that is an important difference between the two parties is the democrats tend to think about that futur

i had the experience last year charles murray's new book right after reading paul krugman's. they start in the same way, pure nostalgia for the 1960's, and almost in the same terms. and they are right. those are years we should miss. lote are -- there is a about them to miss. but our policy has been geared around how to bring them back as opposed to how do we deal with today. both parties are intellectually exhausted at the same time in a way that is very bad for the country. was big.vernment big labor was big and there was a lot of economic dynamism at the same time. that's true, but it doesn't mean we could do it today. >> so what is the future? the 60's were pretty good to me. i know you guys don't remember it. >> we weren't born then. >> that's why i enjoyed them. [laughter] >> one way to think about that is that an important difference between the two parties now is that democrats tend to think about the future in terms of large institutions. republicans, when they think about it at all, which is not enough, tend to think about it in more decentralized terms. in that sen

you can look for examples the six i had an interesting experience of reading charles murray's new book after reading paul krugman the conscience of the liberal. it starts the same way. they start with an introduction that is pure nostalgia for the early 1960s. and almost in the same terms. and they are right. those are years that we should miss. there's a lot about them to miss. but our politics is too oriented about how can we bring that back rather than thinking about what is the world look like now and how can we make the most of america's strength today. both parties are failing at that. it's not just a conservative parties. both are intellectually exhausted and at the same time in a way that is bad for the countries. >> there is a 50s nostalgia that right. >> the government was big. big labor was big and there was a lot of economic dynamism at the time but that doesn't mean that we can do it today. >> what is the future? the 60s were pretty good to me. [laughter] i know you don't remember, you were busy on your thing called the internet created using we are not looking back -- >>

lewis you were just touching on it but the conservative like charles murray and the conservative think-tanks what they are doing is they project onto poor people all of the corruption and wickedness that they themselves are guilty of. 15 years ago in the summer of 99 roger ailes was a guest with brian lamb and i called him up and roger ailes of course was unsure mental and starting "fox news" and cnbc and rush limbaugh's career and all that and i asked mr. ailes about the specialist firms that was fronting the tape. of course he lieu off my question but then five years later the ftc levied something close to 200 $80 million worth of fines on the specialist firms for front running the tape. i was wondering if you could address the questions of conservatconservat ives projecting -- i think the country would be surprised another nation is run by cocaine snorting frat boys. it's really a crime if myers coker isn't turned into a major movie. >> host: shone we have a lot of callers on the line. let's leave it there. thank you. >> guest: so, can i run in one particular direction with this? it would

you can look for example, i had the interesting experience last year of reading charles murray's new book, right after reading paul krugman's the conscience of a liberal. those two books start exactly the same way. they start with introduction with pure nostalgia for the early 1960s. almost the same terms, and they're right. those are years we should miss. there is lot about them to miss. our politics is far too oriented how we can bring that barks instead of thinking about what does the world look like now and how we can think about america's strength today. both parties are failing that. that is not just a conservative problem. both parties are intellectually exhausted at the same time in this country. >> there is '50s no, sir tall gay for the economic. >> big labor was big and there was economic dynamism. that is true but that doesn't mean we can do it today. >> what is the future? the '60s were pretty good to me. i know you guys don't remember it, you guys were busy on the internet. >> we weren't born then. >> that's true. >> technically, we really weren't. >> that's yes enjoy th

said charles francis murray was obnoxious weed that needed to be plucked out. by the 1920s he changed his mind. some might argue this is a simple calculation that was feldspar. he was sent vicious and tammany had the power to further. we consider this maybe, just maybe franklin roosevelt came to see that tammany was on the right side of his tree. on the right side of toleration, on the right side of reform and on the right side of religious and ethnic diversity. roosevelt made his peace with charles murphy and became one of al smith's most enthusiastic supporters. tammany offered roosevelt a week to remain active in politics after he contracted polio in 1921 and was no longer considered a viable political figure. truth told he did not always appreciate fdr's assisted. the fact that smith's campaign manager how to explain to smith's white roosevelt support was important. >> help take some of the curse off. [laughter] >> frank roosevelt nominated al smith for president in 1924. tammany hall took on the ku klux klan at the democratic national convention in madison

and the very very ugly charles murray earlier this week the bell curve author and bizer of the texasgubernatorial candidate greg abbott. told a crowd of students at the university of texas that there have been no a significant female original thinker these in any of the world's great philosophical tradition zero or peace remarks were in response to a question posed by a student who asked him if he still agreed with a two thousand and five paper he wrote that argued that women are not significant thinkers the whole exchange was captured on video by the one star project. earthmovers the. eve of the it is almost. all of us here in the us but she's the is the. as you go this is well this was a little slow so the school says so little because. this is the call girls this is good and republicans wonder why they have trouble tracking female voters it's just very clear. coming up the phone lines are now open for your take my take wives segment so if you have a chance if you want a chance to ask a question why if you're on the big picture give us a call or two or two i know for twenty one thi

that's this tail spin or spiral that we're looking at in our communities you know your buddy charles murray or or bob putnam over at harvard those guys are written books on this which is we have got this tailspin of culture in our inner cities in particular men networking and just generations of men not even thinking about working or learning the value in the culture of work and so there's a real culture problem here that has to be dealt with so is there really a difference between right wing extremists and our elected republican party. titian's what's wrong. joining me for tonight's big picture rubble are christie cassettes are progressive strategist and president c.e.o. of new communications and horace cooper a conservative commentator and senior fellow with the national center for public policy research such an impressive. we try we try so good to have you both have with us thank you for joining us so you heard my rant is there a difference between paul ryan and. really. maybe certainly in language there is but i think the common denominator here is the right wing media that treats sort