like you mention charles murray, and colder, milo yiannopoulos, two campuses. their only brother in the sense to troll but they also have ideas about racism, sexism. they are pushing bigoted notions and to do think there's a danger that if you don't meet people making bigoted arguments with resistance, then they will interpret that as community ascent, right? i think there's some evidence to back this up, like white supremacist if they don't get counterprotest sometimes they feel like they've been validated that they are speaking for the community. i do think that people whose instinct is to meet these kind of trolls in public and to confront them and to argue with them are doing the right thing. the question is how can we do that without feeding the victim complex and without them leaning on the other narrative, which is we are martyrs picnic i do sense for us -- they are trying to censor us. i don't know what the right interest but i do think that having trashed trash this out h another people including some folks at the poverty law center, the best way to de

protests against speakers like charles murray. or allow their ideas to be heard denying them and their followers the cherish victim. especially when the actual content is there. and paul is that further into motivation and intent. without understanding and stepping into those arguments where they cannot be agreed upon. and how they found a leader who shares their contempt for empirical truth and gives them the easy shocks they get off on but also warns that trolls would access to the very highest levels of power regardless of their motivation and on in position to or have done tremendous harm to society on the long cherished ideas. in chapters that in turn address certain issues like women's rights. amanda spells out how trolls have entered the discussion not with reason and arguments and facts and data but with a singular focus on the liberals. due to the mostly conservative communities that they claim to represent. she persuasively argues that there is a way out and while she says she. she writes you can't reason someone out of

i'm talking about not even conservatives from jordan peterson to heather mcdonnell and charles murrayde variety of conservatives are being rioted against on campuses and the administration in some cases has not done enough to prevent that from happening. when they do attempt to stop it from happening, they bring a lot of cops on to campus and restrict the number of people who can attend the lectures. they restrict free speech when they try to protect it. >> laura: irony, berkley, is at center -- ground zero of the anti-free speech movement in the united states today. in the last couple days an interesting development, ben, that fits with our series at penn state, the penn state student power network along with other students and community members gathered outside old main to present a list of demands to the president. they included denouncing and defunding hate groups on campus. i think to myself, are the nazis on campus? u.s. communists? no, groups with anti-immigrant rhetoric. i guess that is someone in favor of enforcing the border? >> everything is deemed hate speech on campus. th

there has been another instant with charles murray, protesters surrounded his car and i believe the professor was injured in that incident. heather mcdonald was similarly prevented from speaking at the claremont mckenna campus, where ultimately some students were disciplined for that, which is unusual. usually the protesters get away with no criticism. federal judge ordered auburn to let white supremacist richard spencer speak on the campus after a lawsuit. violence erupted between protesters and the attendees. there were made a protest at uc santa cruz. people were assaulted there. what you are seeing here was last year, a protester getting violent. i don't think it's necessarily students. from what i've personally observed, it's a lot of people coming on campus to use this as an excuse for violence education. the protest prompted a closure at another university as a result of violent protesters. a slice from this year, some litigation occurred at the university of washington. they attempted to charge $17,000 to the college republicans for a campus rally for a group called patriot prayer. th

i'm talking to people who range from jordan peterson to jason riley to heather macdonald, charles murraythere are a lot of people being really rioted against, in some cases on campus and the administration has in some cases really not done enough to prevent that from happening and when they do attempt to stop the riots from happening that, the way they typically do it is by bringing a lot of cops onto campus and then by suggesting that we have to restrict the number of people who can actually attend the lectures. they end up restricting free speech when they are attempting to protect it in some cases. >> laura: irony, the free speech movement, it all started at berkeley in berkeley's ground zero of the anti-free speech movement in the united states today. the last couple of days, an interesting development that fits with our series at penn state. the penn state student power network along with other students and community members gathered outside old main on monday to present a list of demands to the president. i love it when they have a list of demands. these demands included denouncing

i remember charles murray going up saying they're doing it wrong.ards, oh, my gosh, harvard did it right. the students are so respectful. we saw that when betsy devos went up there. the students were respectful, they had a tough dialogue. but that administration got it right. >> well, i think if you shut people down and to close them off and to not have a forum where you actually engage in a spirited and robust debate, i think everybody loses. >> spirit or robust can co-exist with respectful. >>> the final episode of "america inside out with katie couric" airs tonight on national geographic. it is worth watching the entire series. katie couric, thank you so much. >> thank you. keep talking about it. that's our hash tag, keep talking. >> i love it. that's what we do here. >> talking and talking and talking. >> never stop talking. >>> some feel we need to be protected from the steve bannons of the world. is there a remedy for that? our next guest says there is, and that's straight ahead. >>> plus, the latest fallout from michael cohen's consulting gig

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charles: checked the headline from the wall street journal. the economist inc. the next recession could begin in 2020. peter murrayit be a major inflation scare? >> no, i think this is an example of what tammy bruce was talking about. the economics profession represents those people who didn't think donald trump's prosperity as possible. they think it's a one-time juice from the tax cut. people spend a little bit more but they don't believe the analysis from way before he became chairman of the council that lowering tax rates actually encourages businesses to invest more. by the way, that's what they teach us in grade school for, spread if you lower the price of u-uppercase-letter go toward a more capital-intensive society. economists are having a lot of trouble believing their own textbooks because they don't like him ultram. i write some of this off to that. yesterday it was benign so to your point, it's wall street that reacts preemptively on this stuff. i understand what you're saying and i don't disagree. >> let me give you a good example of that. as soon as those numbers came out, i got a letter from one of