our crew this morning is ben stein and charles payne, dagen mcdowell, rob stein as well. charles, what do you make of that? >> this is a scary element. the only element i can think worse than this, you come home and another man's shoes sunder your bed. you know what's going on. listen, $145 million -- neil: i would be ok with the plumber. it's very difficult booking that dude. >> $145 million has been paid out on $2 billion. at the end of the day, i don't know how any of these politicians can say that -- and i have heard a couple of them talk about efficiency, but you can't use the word efficiency and government run in the same sentence. they just don't go together. this is scary as all get out. neil: the president is right. the cash for clunkers was much more successful than they thought so they couldn't keep up with the demand. you can argue they should have planned for that. the problem wasn't the lack of interest. it was too much interest. >> right. that sets an example for what could happen. if we got a public option with health care, will a lot more people wind up on

let's get reaction from charles payne and lee gallagher. >> what do you make of this? >> i want to laugh. this is an example. this right now and medicare. 30 billion-year-old frau30 bild and abuse. the white house had to up the deference at this time projection, $2 trillion. >> wow. >> this is crazy and it is insane and this is a great example of what is going to happen. it is hard for any one who does not have a political agenda not to be extremely afraid that this won't be a disaster. >> you know, one of the arguments being raised by proponents is look, neel, you are making a big deal out of a relatively small amount. nevertheless, 10,000 checks to dead people. 4,000 checks to convicts. ty have on the highest authority that 3,000 chihuahuas also got stimulus. my point is it doesn't end there and i know the arguement was this is just couple p change but it is a lot of change and when we have millions of waste in a multibillion dollar program i suspect we are the chumps. >> i couldn't agree more. my what chihuahua ramon did get a stimulus check. >> did it take it to ta

well, here is charles payne, from the fox business network. hey, charles, how are you? >> great. glenn: also from the c.e.o. of wall street strategies, let's go over this. in common sense, i have another number, because i have future liabilities of $99 trillion. >> right. glenn: this is a conservative estimate. >> that's very conservative right. there i mean, i have seen well over $100 trillion by many different organizations. glenn: so the conservative estimate is everybody, every citizen of the u.s. owes $191,832. >> and this number, as you can see from the clock, keeps moving at a rapid pace. >> how can we ever pay that off? >> you mentioned tax and spend, so that's sort of like being on a diet and having a salad and then having a bowl of ice cream. they can tax us to get the money, and, you know, i think it would have to go up to something like 80% tax rate, something like that, you know, but they can't keep spending, that's for sure. that's the one problem we know washington has always had. glenn: here is the liability per citizen, just for the u.s. unfunded liabilities that

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