. >>> i want to bring in our national security analyst and charles ramsey. commissioner, let me start with you, the details coming in that this was an employees there are reports of explosive,s the degree of coordination that you see potentially? >> there's a high level of coordination. obviously in there's a fire involved, now atf has a major role along with the sheriff's department and the fbi. they'll bring in whoever they need to bring in in order to process the scenes, really getting to the bottom of why the individual did what he did, unfortunately you have eight families who woke up today, with no idea it would by the last time they ever saw that loved one, and for what? we keep saying it over and over again, this is not going to be or last. we really have to look at what's going on in this country with gun violence. the fact that we survile this. >> this space of mass shootings. i'm sure you heard it, these were the essential workers, the people who thought they were out of the woods now, and they were back at work. they had been driving us around an

. >> cnn legal analyst joey jackson with us now, as well as cnn law enforcement analyst charles ramseyhe works for the washington, d.c. police department as well. gentlemen, we appreciate you being with us. charles, i want to hear from you first. what's your reaction to what we just saw? >> well, i mean, it is horrible. there's no justification for this in this case. there was a pursuit, driving on the wrong side of the road, but none of that justifies the action of the troopers once he was stopped. there was multiple deployment of the tasing, there was multiple beating, punching. they left him in a prone position on his stomach for an extended period of time which obviously inexhibits breathing, and there's one clip where he's seen being dragged by his ankles backwards. none of that none of that was necessary. and my heart goes out to the hardy family and the greene family. this is an example of something that never should have happen on top of all of that, the reports are not consistent with the actual video that you've been able to watch. so this case is very, very problematic. >> y

charles ramsey, to you, there are so many answers hopefully that we'll get here in this hearing, i wonder what you think the most important thing is to get a consensus on, instead of finger-pointing but to get real claritity for the american people to protect against future violence. can you hear me, commissioner ramsey? >> oh, i didn't realize that was for me. well, there were numerous brokedowns throughout january 6th. it's important to find out exactly what went wrong so you can fix it. >> charles, sincerest apologies, hard to following these hearings. but the hearing is back on. let's listen in. >> -- since the civil war. it was harrowing and heartbreaking. we watched as the temple of our democracy, a building we're as familiar with as our own homes was overrun by a mob bent on murdering the vice president and members of congress. the mom's goal was clear, they were trying to prevent the peaceful transfer of power to the newly elected president by halting the counting of electoral votes. this insurrection failed, but not before police officers and had to use deadly force to protect me

. >>> joining us now, cnn's senior law enforcement analyst charles ramsey, a former philadelphia policemissioner, and police chief. as we saw in the surveillance video, it happens in seconds, less than ten seconds from the moment these shooters exit the vehicle, to when they're jumping back in the car and fleeing the scene. your reaction to that, and are you surprised they're still on the run? >> well, i mean, you're looking for at least four people, if you notice the driver never got out, he was waiting in the car. he or she. you saw a couple of assault weapons, plus a mand handgun, looks like a semiautomatic. it doesn't take long. that goes to show you how devastating these weapons are. and actually, fortunate that only two people were killed, which, i mean, it could easily have been much higher, with 23 people in total being shot. so, you know, it did look like i saw license tags on there, now, the license plates or the car could be stolen, but at least it's a clue. it's a lead. but if there's been going back and forth on social media, and i'm telling you, a lot of these beeves start

joining us is charles ramsey who ran police departments in philadelphia and washington d.c. and former new orleans major mitch landrieu. chief ramsey, you said last night on this program what happened in louisiana was an excessive use of force. we seen more video. what do you think? >> i mean, there is no justification for what took place. it was an excessive use of force from the excessive use of the taser to punching and kicking the individual and leaving him in a prone position for an extended period of time and dragging him by his ankles. it's one thing after another this is totally unjustified. now, they allege he was in a high speed pursuit but if he was, there is no excuse for that behavior and conduct. i don't know if this superintendent of the state police was the person in place when this incident took place, but the leadership of that agency has to be held accountable, as well. this may be the first time we're seeing this tape, it's not the first time they saw the tape. my understanding is there is minor discipline handed out. they couldn't do that if they didn't

. >> and joining us, cnn law enforcement analyst charles ramsey, and along with legal analyst joey jacksoncommissioner ramsey, the district attorney says brown's death was justified because of a perceived threat, and that brown's actions caused three deputies to reasonably believe it was necessary to use deadly force to protect themselves and others, that is a quote. based on what you saw in the video and the da, what he laid out, do you agree with his conclusion? >> well, first of all, let me -- i was having internet issues here so unfortunately i wasn't able to see the video. but it is important to see the video in order to really make that determination, and i don't know what their use of force policy is as it relates to moving vehicles, i know in the cities where i worked using deadly force against an individual in a vehicle is truly a last resort, and not something that you would normally do. you simply get out of the way if it's at all possible. and so not having seen it, it's going to be very difficult for me to comment. but clearly, his description of what took place is totally dif

charles ramsey, asha rangappa, appreciate it. thank you. >>> up next.president biden to order that urgent reexamination of how the covid pandemic began. what i serve my family really matters. so do i want to give them ordinary eggs... or the best? there's one egg that gives them more of the fresh-from-the-farm flavor they love. only eggland's best. one egg with more vitamins d and e and 25% less saturated fat. only eggland's best. one egg that makes choosing the best easy. only eggland's best. better taste, better nutrition, better eggs. (vo) jamaica. (woman) best decision ever. (vo) feel the sand between your toes, and the gentle waves of the sea on your skin. feel the warm jamaican breeze lift your spirits and nourish your soul. escape to exactly what makes your heart beat. you will love every moment. jamaica. heartbeat of the world. let's go. [ring] [ring ring] [ring] oh no... i thought i just ordered tacos. nope! sushi... ramen... burgers... tandoori chicken... some milk from the store, and... ...and, let me guess. cookies? wha, me hungry! yeah. her

let's get perspective from charles ramsey, senior cnn law enforcement analyst, the former top cop in washington, d.c. and ben, the former president of the naacp, and peace way, chief ramsey, is there any justification for dragging a handcuffed suspect face down by the feet along concrete? i mean, what does -- does anything you saw in that video make sense to you? >> no. no, it doesn't. and there's nothing in any manual anywhere in the united states that allows for dragging an individual face down by their ankles. you know, clearly it is a case of excessive force, i mean, between the tasing, kicking, beating, having him in a prone position for that length of time, even though no one was sitting on him in george floyd's case, that's still a position that's very difficult to breathe. part of your training tells you, as soon as you get him up, roll him over or sit him up, in order for them to be able to breathe. in fact, when mr. greene tries to roll over, one of the troopers puts his foot on his lower back, and pushes him back down. this is a very troubling case. at 2 years old, there's

. >> joining us now, charles ramsey and cnn counter terrorism analyst phil mudd. its's incredible how brazen this attack was. one driver, all on the loose. police apparently have tracked down the car. what do you make when you see this very clear surveillance video of these suspects showing up, doing what they did and taking off so quickly. >> you said brazen. i would say not so smart. think of the incidences where they're going to interact with individuals. they were clearly targeting people at the site. you look on social media. you do interviews at the site and say who hated whom here and let's go find the people that hated the other people. i got the license plate. i've got the registration number of the vehicle. you might have license plate readers along the site. are there toll roads along the way where you could find where the car went? the likelihood these individuals didn't interact with a person or some sort of digital media that would allow them to be picked up in the coming days, i'd say brazen maybe, not so smart in my world. >> it does make me wonder

let me bring in andy mccabe, former deputy director of the fbi as well as chief charles ramsey. andy, can i get your take on what we've heard in this hearing? >> it's really been a tale of two totally different stories. if you look at it from the perspective of the questions, i think in that last series of questions from representative krishamoorthi is a great example. you have the democrats really pushing on these witnesses to shed some light on specific facts, when they received request for assistance, how long they spent thinking about that, whether or not that assistance was granted and you have the witnesses shifting back. you shift over to republican kwerers in, it's like we're in a different hearing. it's talking about referring vaguely to unproven allegations of afr antifa conspiracies and relate gaiting the 2016 election, objections that democrats may have posed. i think it's an unfortunate and unproductive example of how incredibly divided we are on this and seemingly every issue. >> unproductive seems to be a great word for it because, chief, i don't know what answers

bring in now cnn national security analyst, juliette and cnn law enforcement analyst commissioner charles ramsey. juliette, let me start with you. we're at a point where you can't say, this is the first time at a transportation hub or a large business or in california. we've been covering these for so long and so often. i think what stands out here is the potential preparation, the fire at the home, the potential for explosives, an employee. what do you see here when you look at what we know right now? >> that's exactly how i was thinking about it, too. we seem to have three distinct moments in a horrible, horrible day. there may be more. we don't know now. you have a fire that seems to be linked to the mass killing, which is obviously also linked to explosive attacks on either the building or the infrastructure. this is the valley transportation authority. this is running the lines for california, which would have had a tremendous impact if it had been successful. we'll have to figure out how all those things loop together. you're exactly right. i was thinking this is the first time i'm on your

charles ramsey, as usual, thanks so much for joining us. >> thanks, wolf.l see you at the next scene, i guess. >>> coming up, just in time for summer, new cdc guidance emerging today that many parents have been waiting for. what health experts are saying about kids and camp. ultra scuf. so that you can live that scuff-free life. honey, i'm home! honey! scuff defense. right now, get incredible savings on select behr ultra® paints. starting at $29.98*. cal: our confident forever plan is possible with a cfp® professional. a cfp® professional can help you build a complete financial plan. visit letsmakeaplan.org to find your cfp® professional. ♪ do you have a life insurance policy you no longer need? now you can sell your policy, even a term policy, for an immediate cash payment. call coventry direct to learn more. we thought we had planned carefully for our retirement. but we quickly realized that we needed a way to supplement our income. our friends sold their policy to help pay for their medical bills and that got me thinking. maybe selling our policy could h

want to bring in now cnn's senior justice correspondent evan perez and law enforcement analyst charles ramseyievable. it's really hard to watch. tell us what else is happening at this moment, evan? >> well, don, you know this is probably the most heinous or among the most heinous of the scenes that unfolded that day. this is shortly after 3:00, and the breach had already happened on the other side of the capitol. there were crowds already filling the terrace. i have pictures from just behind where officer fanone was being assaulted. so this is whereas he describes there is hand to hand combat as this mob is trying to get into the capitol from the west terrace, the lower terrace. and the officers are fighting for their lives. they're also trying to protect and stop the crowd from going inside the building to protect the members of congress and the staff that are in there. and you can see from some of the interaction, you can see they are hell-bent on getting in there. the charges against four men who have been charged so far in the assault against fanone describes a horrific scene. you have on

. >> charles ramsey, thank you so much for your time. interesting idea about the ticker.like they're never going to give him up or let him down. can paul ryan convince republicans to part ways with donald trump? stay with us. ♪ the light. ♪ it comes from within. it drives you. and it guides you. to shine your brightest. ♪ as you charge ahead. illuminating the way forward. a light maker. recognizing that the impact you make comes from the energy you create. introducing the all-electric lyriq. lighting the way. ♪ well, well, well. look at you. you mastered the master bath. you created your own style. and you - yes, you! turned a sourdough starter into a sourdough finisher. so when you learn your chronic dry eye is actually caused by reduced tear production due to inflammation you take it on, by talking to your eyecare professional about restasis®... which may help you make more of your own tears with continued use twice a day, every day. restasis® helps increase your eye's natural ability to produce tears, which may be reduced by inflammation due to chronic dry eye. restasi

joining me now, is charles ramsey, he is a former commissioner of the philadelphia police department.eing here. i know you're paying close attention. help me unravel for a national audience what is going on in philly and across the country on this issue? >> philly, in particular, as you mentioned in your opening remarks, i mean, the gun crime, in particular, is at a level that is going to set records by the end of the year. homicides up 34% already this year and they are on pace to have the highest total in philadelphia's history. all gun-related crime. and, at the same time, police have recovered more firearms this year than in years past. they are on pace to set a record in terms of firearms recovery. so, you know, violence is taking place not just in philadelphia but across the country. i do think some of it rests at the feet of some of these progressive prosecutors that just refuse to actually charge individuals or don't request high bonds for your more violent offenders, plea deals, some of these more serious indicates and so forth. it's not entirely their fault but i do think th

joining us is laura cotes and charles ramsey.is your reaction to what we just saw this portion of the video that was obtained and released by the associated press? >> from what i was able to see, the force was excessive. from the use of the taser, i don't know how many times they hit him with the taser, but it did look like it could be inappropriate. certainly leaving him in the prone position the way they did and dragging him by his heels was just malicious on the part of the officers. and then you have the issue of the report being inconsistent with what you see on the video, which is truly inappropriate and wrong. so this is a bad case. and it needs to be examined further. hopefully doj takes it over. >> the department of justice here in washington. what went you your mind, laura, when you were watching the video, knowing that the incident took place two years ago and the investigate shuion into green'sh is still under way? >> i'm horrified for the family that they believed thir eir lov one died in a car crash. there has been

police chief here that was on this network, charles ramsey, that was talking about, you know, they need to get serious about this because some bad stuff is going to happen. and they need to take this seriously, if not for themselves, about the other employees that are in the capitol, the staffers, the architect of the capitol. i was very moved by senator klobuchar's opening statement in the hearings when she talked about the gentleman who hid in the closet that was part of the cleaning crew. >> it's terrifying. >> he came out and had to clean up urine and feces in the building. this is ridiculous. they need to do something and they need to act now. >> gladys, i know san did idra d to, some of the moments in the meetings were tense. it doesn't even really matter, but brian was a republican. i mean, so it's not just turning their backs on an american. they're turning their back on a fellow republican. whatever you're comfortable with, tell me about the tense moments and the senator -- with the senators that you met with. you don't have to name them if you don't want to. >> no, i'm not goi

. >> let's bring in cnn legal analyst joey jackson and cnn law enforcement analyst charles ramsey.en, do you agree this was justified? >> i'm troubled. let me tell you why. based upon what i saw and with permission not to mince words, i think it was an arrogant press conference, it was tone deaf, it was certainly not empathetic to the family. all that aside, let me tell you what my concerns are. number one, you have a sitting district attorney who depends upon the police department to investigate and prosecute cases who now is attempting to try to say that you're objectively evaluating the police's conduct at issue here. to me, that's problematic. therefore, i think you need independence if you're going to have any semblance of an investigation. with respect to number two, i think you can't cherry pick facts that support you and choose to ignore or spin facts that don't. for example, you indicate the car is a dangerous weapon, but yet you dismiss a question with request to the speed, saying nothing to see. it doesn't matter the speed, doesn't matter if it's standing still. we can s

to bring in, now, cnn senior justice correspondent, evan perez, and law-enforcement analyst, charles ramsey-- that video -- it's -- it's unbelievable. it's really hard to watch. tell us what, else, is happening at this moment, evan. >> well, don, you know, this is probably the most heinous, or among the most heinous, of the scenes that unfolded that day. this is shortly after 3:00, and the breach had already happened on the other side of the capitol. there were crowds, already, filling the terrace. i have pictures from just behind where officer fanone is being assaulted. and so, this is where, as he describes, you know, there is h hand-to-hand combat, as this mob is trying to get into the capitol from the west terrace. the lower terrace. and the officers are fighting for their lives. they are, also, trying to protect and stop the crowd from going inside the building. to protect the members of congress and the staff that are in there. and you can see, from some of the interaction, you can see that they are hellbent on getting in there. the charges against four men, who have been charged, so

. >> charles ramsey.about, you know, they need to get serious about this because, you know, some bad stuff is going to happen. and they need to take this seriously, if not for themselves, about the other employees that are in the capitol, the staffers, the architect of the -- i mean, yeah -- the architect of the capitol. i was very moved by senator klobuchar's opening statement in the hearings. >> yeah. >> when she talked about the gentleman who hid in the closet. that was part of the cleaning crew. >> yeah, it's terrifying. >> and he came out and had to clean up urine and feces in the building. you know, this is ridiculous. they need to do something and they need to act now. >> gladys, i know some of the -- sandra just alluded to it -- some of the moments in the meetings were -- were tense. >> uh-huh. >> one of the things that i think people don't -- it doesn't really even matter. but brian was a republican. i mean, so it's not just turning their backs on american. they are turning their back on a fellow

joining us now to discuss, charles ramsey former philadelphia police commissioner. also d.c. police chief. it is good to have you on. i wish it wasn't this often, frankly. you know, i can't count the number of times you and i and poppy have looked at videos like this one. just speak about it as a police officer and a police commander. what led, what could lead them or justify police to use that level of force on him in those circumstances as you watch the video play out? >> well, there is no justification for that level of force. allegedly he engaged -- they were engaged in a high speed pursuit and even if that were true there is still no excuse for using that level of force between the multiple tasings, kicking, and punching. leaving him in a prone position for an extended period of time which we learned from george floyd is very dangerous for an individual. grabbing the person by the heels and then dragging him. i mean, there is no excuse for it. and if it is in fact true that the original report is not consistent with the video, then you have another issue, which is actual

joining me is charles ramsey and our cnn national and legal analyst and fbi agent.ough the cracks after being known to dhs officials? >> i am and i'm not. the fact that he got stopped. he obviously raised red flags that he went through it. they wrote it up so, you know, there was something significant there will. on the other hand, i would want to know what happened after that. was it sent to local law enforcement in san jose? if it was, did they act on it and notify the employer. it gets to the difference in how wes coming at the international level verses domestically, if this was a foreign national stopped by dhs, the process would have triggered a number of different information sharing. he would have been questioned by the fbi for example. so, i think we need to see what the paper trail was with this memo. >> chief ramsey is it unusual for the different agencyies not to share? how good is information sharing now? >> normal it's pretty good. it doesn't mean there's times when things just don't go beyond the agency that originally uncovered it. this may be an exa

. >>> joining us is detroit interim police chief and former philadelphia police commissioner charles ramsey. chief craig, let me ask you this. two issues here. one, the treatment that ronald greene experienced there, but number two, what the police said about what happened. the fact that they said there was a struggle, but they certainly didn't say tased. they didn't say there was blood flying everywhere so much that they commented on it and then merely said he died in the car afterwards, as if it just miraculously happened in a vacuum. the omission of the details seems glaring, yes? >> absolutely, john. this is deeply troubling and my prayer goes out to the greene family. but you point out the two big issues. one, we know just looking at the video, this was an example of what defines excessive use of force. and then on top of that, the inaccurate report and on top of that, they indicate the officer was at some point suspended. he returned to work. so what's the status of the internal investigation? let's face it. this is yet another big setback for our profession. you know, we're in a cris

joining me now former law enforcement charles ramsey, former philadelphia police commissioner and policeington, d.c., of course. chief, first, your reaction to the video. >> well, it's highly problematic. it shows some excessive force being used. they left the individual in a prone position with his hands behind his back for an extended period of time. and even though you don't have anyone on his back, clearly, it hampers breathing, when he did try to turn over. one of the officers, or troopers, rather, actually put his foot on his lower back to keep him from turning over and then drug him by his feet. so, i mean, it's a bad video. it's not consistent with the written report. two years have passed. you know, the people of louisiana really are not in touch with the criminal environment. you cannot sit on these tapes. you have to be transparent, whether it shows that the officers acted properly or not. in this case in my opinion, they did not act properly. >> chief, you hit on something that i think is super disturbing about this. that it looks like the police lied about why he died in tha

charles ramsey, former philadelphia police commissioner with us now.t here with the reporting that we have on this shooter, his ex-girlfriend said he had mood swings exacerbated when he had large amounts of alcohol, enjoyed playing mind games, ex-wife says he spoke angrily about his coworkers and bosses and at times directed anger at her. is this someone who the red flag law should have prevented from having these weapons? >> perhaps. it depends on whether or not this is something that those two people knew or if it was widely known. but it could have. it could have made a difference. but again, you're in a state that has good gun laws now. you know, it didn't stop this from taking place. you have a lot of people out there that display, you know, that kind of anger, but then they don't pick up a gun and go to a workplace and start killing people. so, it's complicated, easy to look at afterwards, but not so easy during the time it's taking place. >> but commissioner, here's the problem. the ex-girlfriend had been involved in a court suit -- there was la

charles ramsey as well. >>> still to come tonight. someone once close, very close, to former congressman matt gaetz is now talking with federal prosecutors. what she is saying and what a former associate has already told authorities investigating the florida republican on allegations of sex trafficking. >>> and later, we are going to keep ted cruz honest. the republican senator, well, used a slur while fawning over the russian-male physique. even retweeting right-wing, russian propaganda to disparage women in the u.s. military. yeah. it's a lot. i was drowning in student loan debt. i was in the process of deferring them, paying them... then i discovered sofi. completely changed my life. lower interest rate. my principal is going down. sofi is a place where you can start to tackle those money goals today. compared to where i was three years ago, i'm kinda killing it. ♪ tonight...i'll be eating a falafel wrap with sweet potato fries. i'm kinda killing it. (doorbell rings) thanks! splitsies? ♪ ♪ oooh...you meant the food, didn't you? [sf