>> my name is charles renthrew and i speak from a different perspective than those who are sole practicenysingers, i have been fortunate to build a very large law firm and a u.s. district court judge and i had access to wonderful libraries and the libraries are sometimes the back bone of the law because it contains what has happened, and what should happen is also, contained in those libraries. i have read the materials that have been submitted to you, i urge that you consider them seriously, that you look at the need for at least 30,000 square foot in the library and particularly this time, when the courts have more people representing themselves, there is a greater need than before to have a public library accessible to them. and i just urge you and i know that the committee will, consider this very carefully because there are times as we are in today, where some resources have to be expanded for the organizations that meet growing needs and demands and thank you so much. >> thank you very much. >> next speaker? >> good morning. my name is chuck marcus and i am the president of no cal, the pres