charles: to the "washington examiner"'s white house correspondent susan crabtree. susan, certainly combined, jill stein and gary johnsontarting to poll very, very well. i think they're starting to have an impact there. but do you think that their message is enough to woo these bernie sanders voters? >> i think anytime you have a recent poll out last week, cnn, poll saying that jill stein is getting 5% and gary johnson is 15%, with very, within the margin between hillary and donald trump, that is a close election. so when you have elections that are that close, these votes matter. if you go back to 2000, democrats were just insanely infuriated by ralph nader and what he did in that election, taking 2.3 million votes away from al gore. and a lot of people blamed him for costing the election. so you have bernie sanders, he is not really paying that much attention to jill stein lately. he is should say, this not the way to go here. charles: but you know, bernie sanders of course though, he a lot of people are upset with him. bernie, his core followers feel like maybe he let them down. >> sure. charles: he said all the thin