the years -- three years ago charles taylor was here. he basically said, we are these people for whom faces a choice to be in a window was not true for people on the best. so you had said, we are catholic protestant, secularist, whatever. on the other hand, you are also arguing that we are all inheritors of the reformation in some way. toby out on the diversity of who we are today with is the fact that we all are somehow -- >> right question. i did think it is possible to answer that. we are all effected by the consequences, long-term consequences of the reformation era love -- whether we like and not regardless of what we individually might affirm or how we live with in a hyper pluralism in so far, for example, as we all live within western liberal political restitution. everyone who lives in a western country lives in this kind of structure with the variations, the belgian, the u.s. is the case may be, we also all live within capitalist market economies that are part of an interconnected global market network regardless, even the peopl