charles wilson, ta ke that we serve.you for your time, thank you forjoining us and bbc world news and talking about your experiences as a police officer and dealing with that struggle. we are going live now to seattle and speaking to jay willis, talking about what has been announced in minneapolis and this police force being dismantled. what might that mean for the future of policing in the city? jay willis, senior contributor at the appeal. in the short time, it is not clear. there is not a lot of precedent for this. i know they are working on different ideas and approaches to discuss problems both in the short and long—term. in order, first of all, there are many options for filling core police functions in minneapolis without the services of the minneapolis police department. you have state and local agencies on which you can rely, with which you can draw up agreements, and there are also a number of local independent police departments. for example, the university of minnesota metro pd, an independent parks departmen

well i want to poland tonight's retired police lieutenant charles p. wilson he is chairman of the national association of black law enforcement officers he spent 45 years in law enforcement he joins me tonight from providence rhode island incident wilson it's good to have you on to the day you know we're learning tonight just like i'm sure you are that all 4 of these officers involved in the death of george floyd they have now been charged eric chosen the man who needed the neck of george 4 he's now been charged with 2nd degree murder now all of this coming now lame days after the event that has rocked the u.s. what's your reaction tonight but i want to say thank you for inviting me on your. detractors were were do. and upgrade on that i'm. most likely appropriate. how much of an impact that's going to have on what has been taken place nobody is for sure yet. i end it people need to recognize that they hold is that having upgraded their charges and charging the other 3 officers will help to curtail some of the more violent parts of the protest it had been goi

right we're going to have the reparative there were run out of time retired police lieutenant charles wilson chairman of the national association of black law enforcement officers who say that it was good talking with you we appreciate your time tonight and we appreciate your wealth of insight and experience thank you thank you for being inviting me. these simmering anger and frustration over police brutality and raises them it's not an american invention the protests in the u.s. have triggered protests and solidarity across the globe in london thousands of protesters gathered today to honor the life of george floyd. matter organize the rally to draw attention to what they say is this is discrimination which harms people of color in the u k. speaker's corner in london's hyde park a meeting point for demonstrates has over the years. i thought that this time they gathered to draw attention to injustices against black people sparked by the death of george floyd in the us. among the protesters star was actor john boy into a prominent voice against racism. who those present were also eager to str

charles wilson is a retired police officer and chairman of the national association of black enforcement little earlier i asked him what he thought of the move by minneapolis city council to dismantle its police force. my understanding is that they have not presented any clear—cut concepts of what it is they're going to put in its place yet. only that they are looking to, quote unquote, dismantle what's there. that's likely to be a long and complicated process that could take some time. i want to talk bit about your experience. you were the first black police chief in a suburb of cleveland, ohio, in the late—80s and mid—1990s. what do you think it's like now for black police officers to be out on the streets dealing with protests, where, in many cases, the police are the target of those protests? it's hard. as black officers, we have to tread a very thin line. we know that we represent the, quote unquote, police establishment, by virtue of the job that we do. but we also have both a self recognition and community recognition as being members of that black community. of the 9000 some odd

this is the charles wilson peel portrait of the series that he painted from philadelphia but it somehow got to tulsa. whenever we see him in the paintings, he is serious, not smiling, has this faraway look, a very brainy, intellectual air. whereas dolley, i think we think of quite differently. fascinatingly, she was a major subject for advertising well into the 20th century. of course, and her name is always spelled wrong -- of course, there is the brand of ice cream. and then people about my age who were kids in the 1970's know the bizarre combination of hostess snack cakes like twinkies and hoho's marketed as being dolley madison but also the peanuts characters. i think what this is suggesting is dolley's fame as a hostess. one thing i want to argue is just calling her a hostess, someone who throws a good party, actually demeans her achievements and astute use of the material world in the service of her and her husband's social and political ambitions. so we are now going to follow james through to a time he meets dolley and then follow dolley. this is a family tree sketched out by ma

griggs, first vice president of the than thea chapter of the naacp and former police lieutenant charles wilsono serves as the national chairman of the national association of black law enforcement officers. thank you both for being here. it's a really important day and so many developments. if i could begin with you, lieutenant. your reaction to what we just heard in terms of what is included in the president's executive order on policing coming, and what's not, for example, there's not a federal ban included on chokeholds. does it go far enough? >> it doesn't sound as if it will. it needs to put a specific limitation on the use of both chokeholds. we know that it needs to address no-knock warrants. it as well needs to address the overall systemic issues with law enforcement. now what the president and his supporters apparently do not wish for anybody to talk about is the actual foundational issues of law enforcement. the institution of policing is inherently biased against people of color and low income, and it was designed to be that way, so we have to accept that as the overall founding of

i would love to read a book about charles wilson peel the philadelphia painter who was into everythingtalk about the 18th surgery century enthusiast who was a painter and tinker of mechanical advice on - - devices and an archaeologist a soldier and politician. he knew everybody. and the idea who is not a general or a politician or soldier appeals to me. >>cspan2: no interest in the present? or in your lifetime or truman? >> no. that wasn't quite present. >>cspan2: in your lifetime? >> not particular i will stay in the 18th century. i like it there and i'm starting to know everybody i like the change in the literature. >> how did you get to know henry knox? >> to his letters. they are in a variety of places. most of those are at the morgan library in new york but the diary of his track from ticonderoga which i have reproduced in the book in the picture section of the book in its actual size that's at the massachusetts historical society. >>cspan2: are you on the board? >> i've never been on the board but i'm actively involved. that's one of the most wonderful collections in the country

charles young for example served with pershing. pershing was at one point eager to have him on his staff and that didn't happen. the army and woodrow wilson made sure that charles young didn't become a general. and pershing didn't intervene. he had an opportunity to take a much more definitive stand in protecting black officers and their reputations. he chose not to do that. which i think was really kind of a stain on his leadership. >> great talk. the japanese proposed a racial equality clause as part of the covenant at the league of nations. largely because, as i understand it, wilson's opposition, it was rejected. was this supported by black american leaders or was this strictly a japanese initiative? dr. williams: that's a good question. you begin to see a growing relationship between african-americans and japan. even going back to the japanese-russo war and this idea of japan as kind of part of a darker world. an emerging world of nations which is going to challenge europe and european supremacy. so, there was certainly african-american support for that racial equality clause and certainly during the interwar period, you see how that

charles. >> thank you all. >> thank you all. >> the senate returns shortly to continue work on the nomination of cory wilson to the 5th circuit courtit

charles. >> thank you all. >> thank you all. >> the senate returns shortly to continue work on the nomination of cory wilson to the 5th circuit court with the confirmation vote expected on that nomination. also this week, debate and votes on police reform legislation introduced by south carolina republican senator tim scott. the president pro tempore: the senate will come to order. the chaplain, dr. black, will open the senate with prayer. the chaplain: let us pray. o god our shield, look with favor upon our senators today. guide them around the obstacles that hinder their progress, uniting them for the common good of this great land. free them from anxiety and fear, as they put their trust in you. lord, enable them to go from strength to strength, fulfilling your purpose for their lives in this generation. guide them to use their abilities and talents to accomplish your holy will. striving to please you, help them to stand for right and leave the consequences to you. we pray in your holy name. amen. the president pro tempore: please join me in the pledge of allegiance to the flag. i pledge allegiance to the flag of the unite

charles and jack and also the d.b.i. staff for it for patience with me. allen, phil, bruce, and wilson. thank you everyone. is there a motion to adjourn? >> i will move, motion to adjourn. >> thank you. >> is there a second? >> second. >> i am miguel bus bustos this d this is meeting for june 16, 2020. i welcome the members of the public streaming or listening via by phone and live and to the staff who have helped to make this meeting happen this afternoon. following the guidelines set forth by the local state officials during this health emergency, the members of the commission are meeting remotely to ensure the safety of everyone, including the members

charles and jack and also the d.b.i. staff for it for patience with me. allen, phil, bruce, and wilson. thank you everyone. is there a motion to adjourn? >> i will move, motion to adjourn. >> thank you. >> is there a second? >> second. welcome to the san francisco planning commission remote