everything else he has is going to be attached to the charleston area and charleston defenses. they are pretty paranoid about losing charleston. we will go to the chart that shows you what they have here. sherman's guys number about 60,000. when you look at what they have got to deal with, they have considerably less than that here. they have requested james connors brigade. it is moving but it is not actually here yet, so i did not put the numbers down. . and they will6, begin to get more forces accumulating, kind of like ticks coming to a dog, so they did not have a fixed number of folks at any particular time. 26of january 6, there were field artillery organizations scattered around the department. they have a collective total of 108 guns. 10 were mexican war vintage six pounders and 11 were rifles. blakely's -- two 3.5" blakelies. this is the department of south carolina and georgia they are dealing with at this particular point. they will begin to take up the river defenses around the area going from savannah on the low end here, moving up toward charleston in this directi

but to challenge white man's mastery with unoccupied charleston. the ball was held at 99 meeting street, a very capital house. british officers dressed the women up in taste with the richest silks. powdered up in the most pompous manner. the women arrived in the ball and carriages escorted by british officers. festivities lasted until four in the morning. this ball was not entirely unprecedented. charleston has a long history of interracial relations including dances. but this january 1782 ball boldly moves such interactions into the predominantly white rooms were enslaved black women may previously have been present as servers or slivers but not as bloggers or hostesses. in addition to the cities precedents, this ball is also reminiscent of afro caribbean traditions which merge creole african carnival traditions with the christmas holiday. the celebration varied among plantations. it was a festive and version of the plantation hierarchy. contemporary accounts describe enslaved people dancing through the streets and tired in masks and lavish dress.

about the jim crow era charleston. reallyjim crow era moreds more and progressively after that civil war, and dramatically accelerates in the late 19th century and the opening years of the 20th century. system that we use a short ham term -- shorthand term jim crow to describe, is a system of .acial separation frequently established and codified by the law. separationthe racial was accomplished through custom, customary practice. by the late 1880's and 1890's in the opening years of the 20th century, laws were passed to expand the system and enforce the system, the power of civil authority. for example the simple pleasure that i'm enjoying now, sitting at the southern tip of the city of charleston in battery park, what have been unavailable to me , as a black charlestonian, during the jim crow era. because african-americans were excluded from the parks of the city. they were not allowed to recreate in them. and especially not in this location, which was really a premier location, a premier recreational area and the cit

a wine bar in charleston was attacked, he called police repeatedly and received no assistance.le, his business was destroyed. >> what's the name of the business? >> on port charleston, my staff and guests were running for their lives well the police coward and still have it moved and left the entire city unintended, people in harm's way, businesses destroyed, are you guys ever going to show up tonight? >> we do have calls and for the scum of the charleston police department has officers responding, okay? >> tucker: tim, thanks so much for coming on, something about your call may be emotional as i listened to it, i think every i person who heard it could picture themselves in your position. what was it like? >> thanks for having me, i will say the first collar, i believe that first 911 call. and you know, kind of getting a little emotional, teary-eyed, not only did i live it, my son was literally the last line of defense, he just dragged two customers off the street to protect them and the first break came through the window and chatted the glass on him. i left about an hour bef

stephanie gosk, nbc news >>> and we'll be right back >>> finally, a somber day of mourning in charleston, south carolina, and a renewed call for change here's gabe gutierrez. >> break it down >> reporter: tonight in charleston, officials are calling for the removal of a statue dedicated to a slavery advocate on the same day the city remembered one of its darkest hours. >> reporter: it was unthinkable, really, five years ago today a self-pro claimed white supremacist went to ith the gr that welcomed him. then, he opened fire killing the senior pastor and eight of his parishioners alicia sanders is one of five survivors. she forgave the gunman. >> i wear a smile. the reason i wear the smile because if you look at the pictures of our nine, they all wore a beautiful smile. >> reporter: following the massacre there were calls for unity now community leaders are calling for action on gun violence, police brutality and what they see as systemic racism in the wake of george floyd's death. >> people want to think that -- >> reporter: reverend sharon rishe lost her mother and two cousins in charle

the john calhoun statue in charleston it is 115 tall, around since 1896.some told the paper about having lived in that shadow their whole lives. this has been a symbol of hate since the day it was put up. a fifth generation charleston native said i don't know how many people i was blood related to that were under his enslavement. he is not going to be looking down on it anymore. i am getting emotional thinking about it. or this moment was about the up rising that we saw across the country. we are happy the mayor and the council came to the same conclusion as the people. ashton callaway said after having the thing loom over me my entire life as a person of color in 2020 i am happy to see the symbol of slavery come down. while the president sits in the white house thinking about costing you ten years in prison if you vandalize a monument on federal land, more cities and states are deciding for themselves now is the time to take these monuments now. charleston paper reports church bells played amazing grace as they prepared to lower john calhoun to the ground

we, you and i not long after that attended funerals in charleston, south carolina, tim was a. any other city in america would not have dealt with it the way charleston south carolina did. we don't talk about it very often. tim scott was there, and because of that mayor, the time they had with each other they move forward and overcame, and and how many black men, and stops playing politics with race. $75 billion going into the most economically challenged country because of tim scott, donald trump and, eight black colleges and universities are stronger today because of donald trump than they have ever been. mister president, the time to act is now, stop pandering to the democratic base and get something done. this was never intended to be a end all but a platform for constructive debate and here we are with two democratic senators to start the debate. i yield back. >> thank you, senator perdue. there is a scripture in the bible in the book of ezekiel chapter 33 around verse 6, a watchman on a wall, there is danger coming. very important job. a watchman's job is to say there is

you are a team owner in charleston? and you guys are closed now, right?rry i have to interrupt you. there's not enough bubbles in this thing. there we go. that -- >> jimmy: that should do it. >> that could be the missing vaccine, we don't know. yeah, there's no baseball. i've been trying the korean baseball for about an inning at a time at night. but it's okay. but it doesn't get it done. they have all the old games on espn, that kind of thing. but i really miss baseball. >> jimmy: bill, i went on the website of the charleston river dogs, the team you are co-owner, and also, what's your job there? you're the director of fun? >> they call me the director of fun, yeah. they kick me down stairs. >> jimmy: i noticed you guys, even though you aren't playing baseball, they are serving food. people can go to the stadium and pick up something to go from the joe. this is quite a menu. what's the home wrecker, do you know that item on the menu? >> the home wrecker is like a 14-inch hot dog. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: wow. have you been watching the last dance on espn?

boston, new york, new port, rhode island, philadelphia, charleston and savannah. with the exception of savannah, the other remaining five cities constitute the five largest port cities in colonial north america. and there are important similarities that run through all these similarities speak speak to brittic. urban dwellers experienced the violence of war through the lens of domestic concerns. and so british occupation presents this really productive and fascinating moment to examine the power dynamics of the revolutionary household. because due to the circumstances of war, american men were often absent or they wielded limited power within their households loyalist men excepted, of course. some men enlisted in the continental army or served in malitias. others were prisoners of war and others fled for safety before the arrival of the british army trusting their wives would protect family property in their absence. in cities under british military rule, civilians thus had to not only negotiate interactions with these new occupying forces and they had to renegoti

americas and is associated with the colonized nation of the region's indigenous peoples and in charleston crews ever moved a statue honoring john c. calhoun an early vice president whose defense of slavery helped lead the nation into civil war the statue of calhoun proved difficult to dislodge dozens of people were there to cheer it as it finally came down cities nationwide are debating the

they're taking in a wild gunman who is white then it dylan wrote who killed all those people in charleston in the charleston church he was taken into custody without a scratch and then i took him up for a hamburger black people are not treated with the things and kind of dignity ok so these are some of the steps that have been called for by protesters what about on a larger scale are we seeing these ongoing protests lead to real political reform well the mayor of new york and the mayor of los angeles have pledged to defund there the police departments so you're seeing something there house democrats and a senate democrats are introducing a bill and later today that will make it easier to prosecute police and will make it easier to sue them for damages if they're convicted so a lot of times when police are sued and if there is a payout it's the community that's paying activists believe if you hit police where it hurts which is their own pocketbooks that this will correct the behavior already to the reporter stacey difference with us here in studio thank you very much for now to a special d.

saturday night we have looting and big challenges on the major artery in downtown charleston and the cops are overwhelmed frankly and having the national guard called up on sunday at the request of the mayor and the officer of the national guard who is close proximity to the areas, that was a good decision and it led to different outcome and in my state i think it could lead to different outcome in illinois and new york as well and we will continue to say the national guard should be the first step and factually if any of us, i think we all are by the way, if any of us are interested in justice forfl mr. floyd in a larger necessary conversation on race and justice, we cannot have injustice in the midst of that conversation, it will not happen. our country will not allow that to happen, perhaps we have to eliminate the violence that were seen on the streets of our nation and the teargas situation in the moment with the bible, i did not see it personally i haven't read about it since then, i thought it was helpful and i would do it withoutad any questions and obviously to use teargas t

are a black person in bristol 01’ are a black person in bristol or if you are a black person or charlestones every day and on top of that, in the united states at least, your taxpayer money, your public money that is supposed to be for everyone is supposed to be for everyone is going to maintain the statues, millions of dollars has gone to maintain the statues and these monuments in the states over the years. it's a clearly topic which gets people impatient, thank you. stay with us on bbc news. still to come: the madeleine mccann suspect‘s life in portugal. we report from the village where he lived around the time of her disappearance. the day the british liberated the falklands. and by tonight, british troops had begun the task of disarming the enemy. in the heart of the west german capital, this was gorby—mania at its height. the crowd packed to see the man who for them has raised great hopes for an end to the division of europe. it happened as the queen moved towards horse guards parade for the start of trooping the colour. gunshots the queen looks worried but recovers quickly. as long

, the artery in downtown charleston. cops were overwhelmed, frankly, so having the national guard called up on sunday at the request of the mayors, the officers, or the national guard was in close proximity to the municipalities and the areas where there was the greatest threat. that was a good decision and it led to a different outcome in my state. i think it could lead to a different outcome in illinois and new york as well. as i said and will continue to say, the national guard should be the first step, and factually, if any of us, and i think we all are, by the way, if any of us are interested in justice for mr. floyd and a larger necessary conversation on race and justice, we cannot have injustice in the midst of that conversation. it just won't happen. our country will not allow that to happen. and perhaps rightfully so. we have to eliminate the violence we're seeing on the streets of our nation. >> as it relates to the tear gas situation and the moment with the bible, i didn't seebible, i personally. i certainly r

we have a history lesson frank i live in charleston south carolina ok we are in the manual and i want to sky. i mean so many people are there even killed by racism so into english metallica has been going on for decades it's never than just started happening this is been going on for months we just tired of having to walk on eggshells like i have a son i have a daughter and to figure out how my going to explain how things are in this world and they're going to automatically be judged because we i can't trust the person next door and it was close to call and now i want like you need help or you can help it's so much so police brutality just nice stuff is not even about race it's police brutality right now someone will miss you but ultimately wants to achieve best ultimately what it once achieved because we're already so angry those other issues from racism it's going to come about from recent looted people being treated unfairly human rights is what we need to control and bigger and get and grip on here in the united states it's been going on too long. in real terms mr what can be done

any other city in america would not have dealt with at the way charleston south carolina did. charleston, south carolina dealt with that with love it something we don't talk about that very often. tim scott was there. because of his time and grace because of the mayor and the black leaders in that town the time they had with each other they move forward. and overcame that tragedy. five years ago tim scott put a bill on this floor and we ended up then in the exact same place we are now, doing absolutely nothing. how many more black men and women have to die in america before this body stops playing politics with race? it's very clear to me, having worked hard on justice reform and opportunities and $75 billion going into the most economically challenged in america because tim scott, president trump and all, the historical black colleges and universities are strongery today because of president trump than they ever have been. mr. president, time to act as now, to stop playing politics, stop pandering to the democratic base and let's get something done. this bill was never intend

take a lesson from north charleston and from charleston when walter scott was shot in the back, running convicted and not spending 20 years in jail. no one threw any bricks. nobody burned down the building. the same thing happened two months later. next week we're going to celebrate and commemorate the fifth anniversary of those poor souls murdered in the basement of the manual ame church. nobody threw any bricks. nobody burn down the building. this time that democratic mayor of charleston rallied with the community and we peacefully found a conviction in the community came together. that's what this family wants from this effort. for us to reform our beliefs. let's do what's necessary, that we know that law enforcement in this country was built upon two divergent set of experiences. white people who came to this country with their own free will seeking liberty and justice. and black people who came to this country against their will, chained, shackled, and enslaved. our law enforcement system has been built upon those two pillars. trying to perpetuate one group and the other with somet

we don't know when the charleston calhoun statue will come down. we're hs watching this.rolina, they've been moving in heavy equipment today to take down what is left of a 75-foot tall memorial to confederate soldiers, looking to take that down

last week on the anniversary of the charleston massacre, the mayor of charleston announced that statuedown. tonight, as promised, the city council voted to take it down. the vote was unanimous. we don't know when the charleston calhoun statue will come down. or where it's going to go. we're also watching this. in north carolina, they've been moving in heavy equipment today to take down what is left of a 75-foot-tall memorial to confederate soldiers, looking to take that down potentially tonight in north carolina's state capitol. governor's orders. watch this space. that does it for us tonight. we'll see you again tomorrow.

base of this statue in charleston, south carolina. at the time, the city of charleston and the whole country were reeling from the massacre at mother emanuel ame church. in charleston just down the block from the church loomed this 115-foot tall monument to famous slavery proponent and vice president john c. calhoun. you can see the graffiti where it says calhoun and someone added, comma, racist. last week on the anniversary, the mayor of charleston announced that statue would come down. tonight, as promised, the city council voted to take it down. the vote was unanimous. we don't know when the charleston calhoun statue will come down. we're hs watching this. in north carolina, they've been moving in heavy equipment today to take down what is left of a 75-foot tall memorial to confederate soldiers, looking to take that down potentially tonight in north carolina state capitol. governor's orders. watch this space. that does it for us tonight. we'll see you again tomorrow. now time for "the last word with lawrence o'donnell." good evenin

the young lady was saying, if you are a black person in bristol or if you are a black person or charlestonthe statues every day and on top of that, in the united states at least, your taxpayer money, your public money that is supposed to be for everyone, is going to maintain these statues, millions of dollars has gone to maintain the statues and these monuments in the states over the years. new zealand has announced it has no active cases of covid—19. we're also hearing the prime ministerjacinda ardern who isjust the prime ministerjacinda ardern who is just confirming the country is lifting a lot of restrictions and moving to level one. it will have one of the most open economies in the world. let's have a listen. there is a reason our borders remain. 0urfirst line of defence is we are not to import the right —— virus. borders remain in ourcomparable countries as well. it will continue and will be as important as ever as we know this is a potential pathway. that is key because we want to just not moved to level one, we wa nt to just not moved to level one, we want to stay there. so there i

i wasn't going in charleston, but i kept a home there and i went to school there, i love charleston. and i know, i think mrs mrs. mr. mcconnell has sat down, and work out their differences. they introduce the same legislation that dave got on the house side and he introduced his legislation. i think that the three of them will sit around the table somewhere. that 70% of what he wanted that senate democrats agreed to. that's the potential of a federal bill that gets signed into legislation which is pretty much dead in the water. >> i have no idea. that is sitting there in the senate and i think they ought to sit down and try to work out their differences. they have to swallow choke holds to get a piece of legislation, but i don't think so. the choke holds ought to be encouraged not to be used or outlawed it. they need to be outlawed, it's just that simple. because of qualified immunity, i don't think so. in prison he was a police officer. there ought to be something visited and -- >> they weren't even able to get it to the floor. he offered the possibility of 20 events that could be p

the work continued this afternoon in charleston with the mayor announcing a plan to remove a monumentavery. as people in charleston are remembering when nine people were lost inside a local church, they are also marking the start of a national movement that remains with us today. >>> that does it for us tonight. rachel will be back tomorrow. now it is time for "the last word" with lawrence o'donnell. >> good evening, ali. thank you very much. >> thank you. >>> well, today the district attorney in atlanta, paul howard, did not just, as the old prosecutor's phrase goes, throw the book at the atlanta police officer who shot and killed rayshard brooks, he threw the books at him, by combining the rule of statutory law and the rules of the atlanta police department. district attorney paul howard hit the now fired police officer garrett rolfe with 11 criminal charges, beginning with felony murder.

one monument for a staunch defender of slavery in charleston, south carolina.ther at the state capital in raleigh, north carolina. it turns out taking down centuries olds monuments is time consuming work. in raleigh, it has taken three days and quite a few different cranes to fully disassemble even just the pillar of that 75 foot tall monument to confederate sould i soldiers. it was around 11:30 last night they finally finished. they labored at it in the heat for most of the day today. but it's interesting. one of the things we're now seeing about the length of time it takes logistly to remove these monuments is that while it's happening people gather around to watch and you get to hear what they think seeing them being taken down after all these years. that john calhoun statue is 100 feet tall. here is what some people who live in charleston told the post and courier, their local paper today, about having lived in that particular shadow their entire lives. quote, this has been a symbol of hate since the day it was put up. or a fifth generation charleston nativ

church in charleston, south carolina. nine people died in that rareliy motivated attack. a.j.ost his sister in the shooting. tragedy motivated him to run for office as a state run as a sta representative. he said that we appear to be worse off now than when dylann roof opened fire on that prayer group. mr. moore, good evening. >> good oevening. good to see you again. >> good to see you, too. we're worse off now? why is that? >> i'm reminded of the african proverb that talks about the leopard, the big cat in the jungle. and in that proverb, it says the scheme skin of the leopard is beautiful, but the heart of the leopard is evil. too often, when we have these racially motivated tragedies, police shootings that have an implicit bias, too often, we he no substantive change happening after that. no economic opportunities for people of color, no opportunities as it relates to better policing. we took on a fight, and i think this time, we must demand more from our systems and our government. >> how are the demonstrations in the charleston area going on right now? are people cynical,

harleston was born and raised in charleston, south carolina, graduate of atlanta university, where he actually studied and took classes with w.e.b. dubois. he passed on the opportunity of graduate studies at harvard university to instead pursue a passion for art. he received formal training at boston museum of fine arts and would become, in dubois's words, the leading portrait painter of the race. harleston returned to charleston to support his family and became a pillar of the city's black community. as he did with many other african-americans, the war politicized harleston. he became involved in civil rights activities, most notably serving as president of charleston's first naacp chapter, established, not coincidentally, in 1917. he continued to paint and, in 1919, as black soldiers returned home to charlston and other communities throughout the country, he produced "the soldier." it was a powerful visual representation of the new negro. he has been decorated. you see the medals on his arm, officer stripes, serving his country with pride. but he has also been hardened, both by war

that's the way he was arrested before coming back to charlest charleston. now compare that with the arrests you've seen. george floyd. a $20 counterfeit dollar and look what happened to him. look at this gentleman in atlanta the other night, how he was arrested. talked for 20 minutes with the officer, beat differential. yes, sir, no, sir. the lessons to be learned from that. >> bret: congressman, we appreciate your time and we appreciate you coming on fox news. thanks for being here. >> appreciate you. thank you. >> bret: a live update from the trump administration, reaction to this interview and the days events after this quick break. effortless is the lincoln way. so as you head back out on the road, we'll be doing what we do best. providing some calm in your day. with virtual, real-time tours of our vehicles as well as remote purchasing. for a little help, on and off the road. now when you buy or lease a new lincoln, we'll make up to 3 payments on your behalf. ♪ >> bret: we just heard from the house majority whip in our last segment. let's get the trump

are you ok with what happened in charleston met the charleston city council and mayor voting to takeown the john c calhoun statue? we talked about a congresswoman enter efforts to get a jackson statue removed and the lincoln emancipation park statue removed. are you ok with those efforts? caller: yes, as long as you get the vote endo out and ask the people. voters are the boss in this country. those are the boss. it is the voters. you get the voters to sign the petitions and do it, you can get is one nice thing in this country. if you get enough people to agree with you, you can make change. that is how you do it. i appreciate you letting me have this time. this is a couple days old, but the blue statues have been removed legally by the government of the localities or states. the red on this map, statues that have been removed by protesters. .here is more red to add this map is about five days old. we have seen several incidents this week, including some high-profile ones, especially in wisconsin. ,ere is the scene in wisconsin governor tony evers deploying aftertional guard proteste

c any other city in america were not have dealt with it the way charleston did. they did that with love. and because of his time in the black leaders in that town and then to overcome that tragedy. five years ago tim scott and then we ended up in the same place we are now doing absolutely nothing. how many more black men will have to die in america for this body to stop playing politicsle with race? it's very clear to me working on justice reform was $75 billion into the most economically challenged communities in our t country because of tim scott and president trump the historically black colleges and universities are stronger today because the president trump than ever the time to act is now to stop playing politics stop pandering to the democratic base and let's get something done. this bill was never intended to be the end-all but for constructive debate here we are with only two democraticrg senators. i yield back. >> mr. president there is a scripture in the bible in the book of ezekiel and that scripture that is to simply say there is danger coming there

you heard her start with the sixth anniversary of observance of the church massacre in charleston, southolina. nine parishioners who were killed at the bible study, after letting somebody in who had the intent to kill all of them, unknown white supremacist. she started there and we'll now analyze a bit because they are going to have to work out those technical difficulties. on my power panel now, david, chairman of go pac. david, i'll start with you, an interesting day for both parties on the hill today and i have made the comment, you know, isn't this the place where sometimes great ideas go to wilt under the weight of partisanship. you saw the president's executive order. he's put out his vision for police reform. now can the legislation that senator tim scott put forth go forward under the weight of bipartisan divide in capitol hill? it. >> needs to, harris. not only at the federal level, but you see many states also looking at iowa -- they passed some pretty significant legislation that has police reform in it. other states are looking at it, and at a time when police reform does nee

it's a transcript of a 911 call from a restaurant in downtown charleston near the battery.his is a quote. it's the macintosh restaurant. i called earlier but it's gotten worse. the riots broke into the restaurant and they are stealing all the money, the alcohol. they're tearing up the seats. 30 employees are stuck in the courtyard, they're barricading the doors.he and they're trying to break in. i called maybe 15 minutes ago and there's still no cops there are 30 people in danger. no evidence the cops ever came. ken schneider owns a wine bar nearby in charleston. black lives matter rioters came for him too. he and his staff repeatedly call the police for help, but no one came. ultimately, he told a local television station, he told dispatchers, "forget it, it's too late, my place is destroyed." he later said he was completely in disbelief at the police didn't come. he should consider himself lucky byom comparison. people are losing more than just the businesses in this environment. in new york city murders are up 25% just this year, that's despite the lockdown. in just the

ly give an example, i had a conversation with one of the leaders of the black lives matter charlestont, his name was marcus. and marcus was a commodities trader up to a few days ago when he told the company, listen, i need to get more involved and i need to organize and see this through and he literally resigned from his job to make this his purpose in life. you know, we have young people like jacob gamble who is a part of 19, doing an incredible job, of this uniting young people. so, we just have, i'm hopeful, but you know, this, i have been here before. so, you know, a part of me is cynical, part of me not sure what is going to come of it. but i'm always reminded and up lifted from young people like jacob and marcus. >> looking at protest images from los angeles, one of the cities on the west coast where there's been protests pretty much throughout the weekend. a lot of people there making precise demands of what they want to see. you have come up with a plan that you refer to as the more justice agenda. what is the key piece of the plan. is there an item that is the corner stone of

last week on the anniversary of the charleston massacre, the mayor of charleston announced that statue would come down. tonight, as promised, the city council voted to take it down. the vote was unanimous. we don't know when the charleston calhoun statue will come down. or where it's going to go. we're also watching this. in north carolina, they've been moving in heavy equipment today to take down what is left of a 75-foot-tall memorial to confederate soldiers, looking to take that down potentially tonight in north carolina's state capitol. governor's orders. watch this space. that does it for us tonight. we'll see you again tomorrow. now it's time for "the last word with lawrence o'donnell." good evening, lawrence. >> good evening, rachel. we have breaking hopeful news from major league baseball. they have scheduled a season, according to the commissioner, that will start approximately one month from today. it's kind of approximate, because, you know, it's something they hope to do. but things could get in the way between now and then, so there might or might not be major league baseb

no >> on our trip to south carolina, i visited -- we were visiting our cousins in charleston. go to the store, and the store was across the playground, and the playground was right in the middle, so we had to walk around the playground and get to the store, and i thought the fastest way to get to the store was ride park.h the it felt kind park. it felt kind of -- was right through the park. it felt kind of odd that you not put your foot in something because something might happen. you didn't want to disturb anything. >> we had lived in california for the greater portion of the time the children have been growing. gayle's schooling has been all along in schools where there was no segregation so that after graduating from los angeles high school, we decided to send gail college in greensboro, north carolina. in theten, we find that integrated schools, that there is not enough activity for the negro girls, meaning they are not able to participate from the standpoint of just being other girls. as far as the need grow girls, here again, this race issue comes up -- as far as the neg

after the charleston massacre, in alabama, by then the confederate flag was gone from the capitol dome, but it was still flying on confederate monuments, on capitol grounds, but after the charleston massacre in alabama, they took down the confederate flag on the capitol grounds, too. one by one, the flags and the monuments to the confederacy have come down, but there was one place where the confederate flag very stubbornly remained. and that was mississippi. the heart of the old confederacy, raising the confederate battle symbol to the hem heavens. day after day, year after year, everywhere the state flag flew. the man you see here is named aaron henry. he was the president of the naacp in mississippi. aaron henry was part of a national civil rights movement. he worked with dr. martin luther king jr. by 1982, he had won a seat in the mississippi state legislature, in the legislature, he worked insistently on trying to change the state flag. aaron henry introduced a bill to change the flag in 1988. that never got a vote. neither did the bills he tried in 1990 or 1992 or 1993. they would

in charleston though we had the national guard on sunday night and they had virtually no problems. the sheriffs were out and said they'd never seen such police presence in his life and it was worked like a charm. had just a handful of arrests and [inaudible] rolling around the city of charleston it was very peaceful. so great work like you said it's time to get serious about prosecuting people and finding out where their origins are, who's paying the money and we've heard some of them get a bonus if they get arrested. they're putting out their hands to get arrested. the police told them get out of there and more and more arrests, so that's the state of it we have to be careful to -- pres. trump: you don't have to be careful, you don't have to be too careful and i'll tell you, you have to do the prosecutions, you don't do the prosecutions -- they're just going to be back. whether it's in two years or two months, they're gonna be back and you gotta do the prosecutions and you know when someone is throwing a rock, it's just like shooting a gun -- just hit somebody in the face, wipe th

acknowledge that five years ago today a white supremacist walked into mother emmanuel church in charleston south carolina and slaughtered a friend of mine and eight other parishioners. it was hate unbridled and a poisonous expression of white supremacy that still affects our nation in many institutions. with the dangers we face as a society if we don't root out this corrosive and that the ideology. reflecting back on the amazing grace and compassion and forgiveness of the mother emmanuel community, i see the very best of what we see in america and as americans. we know grace alone is not enough and we have to see the best of america as well and in the weeks of peaceful protest civil lacks are taking place in this day in every other state - - across the country they are focused on how danger it is to live as a black around skinned person in this country. americans are out there watching and understanding the fact in the middle of a global pandemic that's how critical they think it is. on monday donald trump said " if we stopped testing right now for covid-19 we would have very few cases, if

i have the same respect for charleston and north charleston. orangeburg. they've got good police departments and they work with their communities. look at what happened walter scott got shot in the back. that republican mayor of north charleston joined with the local people. he fired the policeman. they tried him, convicted him and sent him to jail for 20 years. nobody threw a brick. nobody burned down a building. that's what policing is all about when it's good policing. so that's why i think that we ought not ever throw out the baby with the bath water. >> congressman jim clyburn, number three in the house. democratic from south carolina. always good to have you and get your perspective. thank you, sir . preeappreciate it. >> thanks for having me. >> joining me now is new york republican congressman tom reid. let me start by asking where are you on police reform and what would be your top three priorities on a police reform bill that you could support? >> well, chuck, as i watched the procession of george floyd and listened to the words of jim clyburn, m