>> charlie: welcome to the program. we begin this evening looking to the questions about russian hacking in washington and talk to the washington post reporter karoun demirjian. >> is there a smoking gun or something to substantiate the allegations or is this all -- as democrats said they don't believe is this coincidence or something real. >> charlie: and we continue with a conversation about a book that is getting a lot of praise it's called "the rules do not apply: a memoir." the author joins us her name is ariel levy. >> it's a universal coming of age story though there's mongolia and things that won't happen to people but we all go through a process where we figure out everybody doesn't get everything and that's being an adult admitting that and accepting it and appreciating what we have. we all have to do that. >> charlie: and we close with a conversation about a new netflix film called five came back and talk to the author and filmmaker laurent bouzereau. >> they had the most in propaganda assignment and the othe

charlie: because?e the whole thing was so shocking. it was so surreal to be in mongolia and to have a living person who came out of my body. that has never happened to me for. i knew -- before. i knew he was going to die. this was going to be it. this was the only time we had together. i knew i would want to see his face again. believe me, i looked at it a lot. charlie: and every time you look at it, you have the same emotion that you just described? ariel: it is different now. i don't look at it so much anymore. but when i first got back, yeah. charlie: when you got back then, what kind of condition where you in? ariel: not the best. i was so sad i could barely breathe. i had a little identity crisis on my hands. a switch had flipped and i felt like i was a mother. a switch had flipped in my body. i was making milk, i was lactating for a baby that wasn't there. in the deepest part of myself, i felt like that was -- like i was a mother, but it was invisible to the rest of the world because i did not ha

charlie solomon's daughter. charlie: so what's happening?ie: -- richard: well, this is in the middle of the film. charlie: he realizes he has power. richard: he's in. the rest of the scene we didn't know. -- show. i'm glad because it's an incredible scene of being embraced in reality but also in an combregsistic way. the heavens open up and it was the first time in a man's life that the world whole world is going yes. charlie: and he's desperately wanted it to happen. richard: we all do. we all want to walk in a room and people turn and smile. they're happy we are here. charlie: you say it's the best thing you've done in a long time. ever, let's say. richard: no, one of the best things. charlie: is it because of the director, the text? richard: he wrote a great script. he's a great director. the cast is extraordinary. charlie: and what about you? richard: it's harder for me to see myself. i'm happy with the performance. charlie: they -- the director got a performance out of you that hasn't been done before? richard: or that i got a great per

charlie: " thank you. jessica: thank you. charlie: thank you for joining us.me. ♪ .> is almost 11:00 in hong kong you are watching "bloomberg asia." ♪ we can't close our doors. the china premier talking up trade as he arrives in australia. selloff mayts, the be granting to a halt -- grinding to a halt. downs. ups and as we just talked about there, there's a bit of a risk factor coming back into the markets. there was a lot of talk on tuesday into wednesday that it might be the start of a correction, a healthy correction, maybe 5% or he does not happening at the moment, u.s. futures are getting good quite decently at the moment. we are actually seeing this very interesting dynamic between where currencies are going and equities are going. it's good to take a step back at the moment and really look at dollar-yen. when you look across the currency state, the most pronounced move in the past 24 hours has been the dollar-yen breaking the low-key support levels. you are looking at the core relation between dollar-yen, and that pair and the topics index. we all know,

charlie: there are a lot of questions. most important question you would like an answer to? karoun: all of us would like to know the ultimate question, is there any th4ere there? there?e gun?ere a smoking is this coincidence or is it real? republicans say it is coincidence, just average things everyone is pulling together into a conspiracy theory. the question is to find out what really did take lace, how high was it in, how much terms of politics or money? charlie: well paul manafort, jared kushner testify in open hearings before the committee? karoun: if they do, it is not the first that. at this point, we only know men afford -- paul manafort, page, and stone, have offered to do these interviews. eventually there is a step too for a public hearing, but we are not -- a step two for a public hearing, but we are not at that point. charlie: thank you. great to have you with us. we will be right back. stay with us. ♪ charlie: ariel levy is here.she has been a staff writer at "the new yorker" magazine since 2008. she was 38 y

charlie: in europe?ou could argue in terms of the statecraft and keeping difficult things together, she has been better than anyone else. for ability to world politics, white that opposition of any sort both within the european union and in her own country that has been hard to beat. david, pick up what you have heard so far tell me what you agree with. >> i think the americans are wondering why this will affect them. you're going to have this ugly divorce argument involving 28 countries. i think donald trump could be 29th figure at the table. i think the dynamics that theresa may actually came over to washington quickly. britain as options, they could sign a free-trade deal quickly with donald trump, going against what barack obama said that they would have to wait at the back of the queue. i spoke to an ambassador who said he is struck by how republicans on capitol hill are expecting a quick free-trade deal to be done. it fits donald trump's worldview. it is hard for donald trump to do a free-trade dea

♪ >> from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." charlie: we begin with politics.resident trump is trying to bounce back from recent setbacks last week perpetrated by his efforts to repeal and replace the affordable care act. doubts are rising about the president's ability to achieve progress on other aspects of an ambitious agenda as the white house begins turning its attention to tax reform. joining me is robert costa of "the washington post." on friday, he received a phone call from the president breaking news that a vote on the gop health care bill would not proceed. i am pleased to have robert costa back on the program. welcome. robert: thank you, charlie. charlie: i once asked donald trump who he thought understood him, and he mentioned your name. how did this happen so that you are the reporter he wants to call to say, "we are pulling the bill?" robert: we discussed before, i have been covering him for quite some time. i have gotten to know him as a candidate, as a businessman and as president of the united states. i was working with colleagues on a story ab

♪ from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." charlie: we begin with politics.resident trump is trying to bounce back from setbacks last week. doubts arising about the president's ability to achieve progress on other aspects of an ambitious agenda as the white house turns attention to tax reform. joining me is robert costa of the washington post. on friday he reserved a -- received a phone call from the theident telling him that health-care care bill would not proceed to a vote. trump who hedonald got understood him, and he mentioned your name. how does this happen so that you are the reporter he wants to call to say, we are pulling the bill? we discussed before i have known him for quite some time. as gotten to know him as a businessman and as president. i was working with colleagues on a story about trump as a dealmaker. deal with the congress he did not really know? i have been working on this for about a week and had put in some request but did not expect anything. i had not interviewed the president since before the inauguration. i got this call out of the

charlie: thank you both. in a moment. ♪ we continue discussion of the house intelligence hearing with karoun demirjian and matt rosenberg. when will we look back at this and maybe see it as a historic turning point in the investigation? >> it is a very remarkable thing when and at -- an fbi director says there is an active investigation going on in solving the white house. that is historic. majornly, there were two things that came out today. the president's accusations of the wiretapping had no evidence. there are still a lot of unanswered questions. not answered during the hearing. where this will continue, certainly it will be under a cloud of politics the whole time. it is certainly a notable day in the progress. charlie: was this a hard decision for the fbi director to make? karoun: the fbi director said he had gotten permission from the department of justice. there are rare circumstances were in the public interest it makes sense to break the public ruled that he doesn't comment on ongoing investigation

charlie: influence on elvis?out right around the same time and it is hard to say, you know. they were both on parallel courses in a way. i think, again, elvis was so volcanic and sexual and threatening to some people and chuck berry, he was more like this ambassador to rock 'n roll. he kind of made it, he put a playful face on it and made it americana in a way. charlie: the songs have been covered by rolling stones, beach boys, the doors, the grateful dead, james taylor, a wide variety. david: it is an amazing list. everything from country to punk bands. if you are in a garage band, you probably still have to learn how to play the licks when you grow up. that is quite a legacy for him 60 years later that those songs are being covered. that does not happen for everybody in rock 'n roll. charlie: we will be back. stay with us. ♪ the biggest week in tv is back. wow, watchathon has netflix? hey, drop a beat... [ beatboxing throughout ] show me orange is the new black. wait, no bloodline. how about bojack? luke cage.

charlie: any company. steve: a giant company, he certainly knows the leadership of a lot of patience. charlie: should the by definition give him the tools to be a good secretary of state? steve: i think the job has several components. one of them involves negotiating , private, super qualified that's usually includes leaders or foreign people. charlie: most negotiation is in private. steve: in american diplomacy? charlie: yes, i do not think john kerry was telling us what was going on. steve: yes, but he was out talking to foreign press, legislators, all the time that he was talking privately with russians in syria. you have to play at all those levels. we are an open society, a democracy. you need to be accountable to your own public. all of our allies are also democracies. their decision-making about whether or not they will go into, for example, more confrontational risky posture about north korea, that decision will be a function of domestic politics in japan, south korea, australia, the european union

♪ >> from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." charlie: michael morell is here.e is one of our nation's leading national security professionals. he most recently served as cia deputy director and twice as acting director. i am pleased to have him back at this table. welcome. michael: it is great to have you back. charlie: let me start with this. this is this morning's washington post. house intelligence chair alleges spy agency abuse. wall street journal -- g.o.p. lawmaker sparks new battle over trump spy claimant. g.o.p. leader puts new spin on wiretaps. take me through this. unpack this. i don't think most understand what the republican chairman of the house intelligence committee is saying. michael: charlie, this is complicated. let me start with the punchline, the bottom line. this in no way validates the president's claim that he was or or his associates at trump tower were the target of surveillance by the obama administration. it does not even come close to validating. not even close. what did the chairman say to the media and apparently to the president?

charlie: maybe he is shrewd. cagey.is and he is k.g he acts as a psychologist for these warring factions, bringing them into the couch in his office and he tries to mediate. this is his role. press and heof the talks to his father-in-law constantly. nnon,rks closely with ba but sees the others in a favorable way. charlie: what about the secretary of defense, the secretary of state, steve 's deputyt treasury, deputy secretary -- his finance secretary, they seem to have served in other governments, like bush 43. >> all of them are trying to build a rapport with the president. personal relationships are so critical. that is what tillerson tries to do. he is in touch with jared kushner and you have the defense secretary, mike mattis, who has a lot of respect for the president. steve mnuchin and jeff sessions have the closest relationship with the president,, because of the work on the campaign -- president because of the work on the campaign. merkel, insulting don't understand why he is not going to a nato meeting. t

charlie: what was it that intrigue you?: the first thing that intrigue me was that i never heard of it. like anybody else who stepped into a museum and saw paintings by cezanne. in school in france we had to read zola as part of our culture. but i never knew they actually had known each other. suddenly reading an article in a magazine, i found out that not only did they know each other but they met as children in a tiny little town in the south of france. the idea that these two little boys had become monumental figures. charlie: very different little boys in terms of their own background. daniele: exactly. but a very come a very strong and passionate friendships as children build. friendshipy long that survived a lot of problems. this is basically the story of the film. they eventually broke up. the breaking up was the thing that intrigued me the most. i started research. charlie: that was what in 1886? in 1839 they were born cezanne, and 1840, zola. they were the same age in 1860. this is when the group of young new artis

charlie: yes.vately, when i was talking to people writing this story, there is a recognition internally that russia did have involvement in the election but also that they continue to do things that are obviously classified. the public does not see it but the president sees them. that has given the president's as well. charlie: what was his hope during the campaign when he refused to criticize russia for the relationship? clearly, he thought the russians might cooperate in antiterrorist measures. >> yes. and the white house would still like to find ways to cooperate on counterterrorism. i think the hope was -- this is a president that likes to do big things and certainly likes to do things people before him were incapable of doing. his predecessors have struggled with maintaining a positive relationship with russia, so it was kind of a challenge to him. this is just setting aside all of the issues the russia issue brings to him because of these investigations. i think he was hoping to do some large

this is kind of a charlie chaplain side of him. there's no anger. >> rose: a look at health care in washington and a conversation with richard gere when we continue. >> rose: funding for "charlie rose" has been provided by the following: >> and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and information services worldwide. captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> rose: president trump's vision to remake american healthcare was dealt a surprising and devastating blow today, the president and house republicans leaders decided to pull legislation to repeal the affordable care act after facing stiff resistance from both conservative and moderate factions within the party. speaker of the house prine rushed to the white house to alert the president he lacked votes to move forward. he addressed reporters later this afternoon to explain why the vote did not take place. >> we came really close today, but we came up short. i spoke to the president just a little while ago. i told

hurt is on the sofa and he is outnumbered. >> charlie: i disagree with a lot of people. i don't think the inaugural speech was particularly dark. i think he is given a lot of good speeches, but that was definitely his best one. >> sandra: judge, good to have you here. the >> jeanine: thank you. i was really overwhelmed. when will he be presidential? when will it happen? this man was so presidential, so focused, so clear, so concise, and he never really came off of -- >> sandra: many are calling a pivotal moment for the commander-in-chief. it president trump, again and again, heading optimism and hop hope. by many accounts, the president delivered. watch. >> president trump: each american generation passes the torch of truth, liberty and justice, and an unbroken chain, all the way down to the president. that torch is now in our hands, and we will use it to light up the world. a new national pride is a sweeping across our nation. and a new surge of optimism is placing impossible dreams firmly within our grasp. what we are witnessing today is the renewal of the american spi

charlie: yes.point, south africa is one question, money has been pouring into locally nominated bonds. when clients come to you and want to play begin play space, how do i do that? charlie: the numbers thing is important. there is a difference between oil markets and nonoil markets. brazil and russia have been phenomenal this past year, but in my opinion, the oil price is going to struggle to perform from here. the normal markets -- nonoil markets could do well and that takes you to places like turkey and south africa, choose a different risk. a different assessment. these markets are volatile and they are also not massively deep capital markets. when you talk about emerging markets like this, their market -- one decent u.s. stock is the same as an emerging country in some cases. guy: how much cash would you have on the sidelines right now? charlie: about 20% in short dated bonds. that is tactical because opportunity by duration and politically for the past eight months, i sat out of the way and ke

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he's waiting for charlie in america. so he has agreed to treat charlie? yes.rsday. the day before court. they told us we could do go to america subject to money and things like that, but and then they said that they don't think it is in his best interests. i said but he hasn't deteriorated recently since they said we could go to america. what was that like when you found out there was a really big fundamental difference of opinion, chris? well, it's difficult because we feel like we've been fighting for a long time. it seems like we've been fighting since the day we found out charlie was ill, you know. at the end of the day, we want him to be given the chance, you're never going to find treatments or cures for these things if you never try anything. what we're asking to give him are not poisons, they're naturally occurring compounds that me and you can do produce and unfortunately he is deficient in them and he can't produce them himself. so, you know, there is no real known side—effects to the medications so i kind of think the hole time has been why not try?

i'm charlie rose. the program is "charlie rose: the week." just ahead, the president, the congress and the showdown over health care. president trump and the truth. and jessica chastain chars in the war "time" drama "the zookeeper's wife." >> have you been keeping secrets from me? >> no one knows how hard it is. you can never tell who your enemies are. >> rose: we will have those stories and more on what happened and what might happen. >> rose: funding for "charlie rose" has been provided by the following: >> and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and information services worldwide. captioning sponsored by rose communications >> rose: and, so, you began how? >> compassion. >> rose: is it luck or at all. a very rigorous process. >> rose: what's the object lesson. >> they're going to come bang and do it again. >> rose: tell me the significance of the moment. >> rose: this was the week the f.b.i. confirmed it was investigating a possible collusion between russia and the trump campaign. a terror attack in london killed four and injured m

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, filling in for charlie rose.e begin this evening with politics. president trump delivered an address to the joint session of congress last night. he defended his administration's first five weeks in office and vowed to reach across party lines to achieve legislative goals. including building the highways and roads. pres. trump: if we are guided to the well-being of american citizens, i believe republicans and democrats can work together to achieve an outcome that has eluded our country for decades. [applause] president trump: another republican president, dwight d. eisenhower, initiated the last great infrastructure program, the interstate highway system. the time has come for a new program of national rebuilding. >> the content and tone marked a reversal from the dire landscape that the president articulated during his inaugural address in january. a new chapterp: of american greatness is now beginning. i knew national pride is now sweeping across our nation. a new surge of optimism is placing impossible dreams

charlie, welcome back.e all missed you. >> announcer: this morning's "eye opener" presented by toyota. let's go places. captioning funded by cbs >>> welcome to "cbs this morning," and, boy, am i happy to be here. >> did you get the last part? the president said, welcome back, charlie, we all missed you. >> are you sure it was me? >> i got a lot of tweets. this is the best, from gigi, who i don't know. he is back, ladies and gentlemen. my birthday wish is sunday. my wish has been for the return of charlie. wishes do come true. >> indeed. >> did you feel tingly? >> i feel happy. i mean this is a great place to start your morning, it really is. >> yeah. >> we went right upstairs to where you were being made up. just to see everybody. >> you got a hug from klaus. >> you have to worry about being squeezed to death. >> what's great is to hear your voice. >> thank you. the interesting thing tomy is the surgeons said everything we wanted to do came out better than expected so we're very excited about what it's goin

♪ announcer: from our studios in " charlie this is rose." >> i'm filling in for charlie rose.resident trump delivered an address to the joint session of congress last night. he vowed to reach across party lines to achieve legislative goals. president trump: if we are guided to the well-being of american citizens, i believe republicans and democrats can work together to achieve an outcome that has alluded our country for decades. [applause] another republican president, dwight d eisenhower, a listen it -- initiated the last great infrastructure program, the interstate highway system. the time has come for a new program of national rebuilding. content and tone marked a reversal from the dire landscape that the president articulated during his and i color address -- and not jural address in january. a new chapter of american rightness is now beginning. a new national pride is sweeping across our nation. a new surge of optimism is placing impossible dreams only within our grasp. what we are witnessing today is the renewal of the american spirit. >> the question for many is which p

i tried to pull him out, charlie, in charlie rose style, please, reflect. this is a major moment, such a big crisis for you and your party. and he said flatley, just another day in paradise. >> rose: how do you think he views the experience that he has had the first 50 plus days. >> the way he talked about it was in a way he knows is he a nonidea logical rep-- republican. he disn come out of the regan movement like ryan and so many other republicans who think of themselves at their core as tax rueter -- cutters, that want small government, like a real hatred of the government. trump doesn't have that but he has embraced the ideology of ryan because ryan and mcconel in the senate, the majority leader seem to understand how government works. and trump is such a rookie at this in many ways on the scene. so he's gone along with them. the question i have as a reporter, i'm sure many people do out in the country, is what now. it hasn't really worked to go along with speaker ryan on health care. will he continue to go along with the speaker and mcconel when it com

john, charlie, why don't you start us, charlie, with the front page of the observer?andards this is amazing. when i first started in journalism, we used to have scammers in america to hibberd calls of police departments. and these days, we just police departments. and these days, wejust get police departments. and these days, we just get tweets and twitter. this helps us see what mrs donald trump is coming outwith. and this morning it was a doozy. he has launched a verbal assault on barack obama accusing him of a wiretap in his office in new york. this is almost unprecedented. i won't say it is totally unprecedented. if you think back to, for instance, clinton and george w bush bush. they made a mess, they trashed it. a couple of days ago, however, trump said that when he took place over it was a mess. instead, he is finding stuff thatis mess. instead, he is finding stuff that is going on. i guess he had a meeting with one of these people over national security that said we have been bugging you. what happened... that is not what they are saying is that. they say he s

go vote and have your voice heard again and have a great afternoon. >> all right, charlie. thank you. jim, take it away. >> thank you. what a great panel and there's no way i can follow these guys pants. last year i wore sneakers. >> it's saturday. >> you guys are dressed way better than me. last year i wore sneakers. i got killed on social media. next year the sneakers are coming back. it's an honor. i've got to tell you every year -- i've been coming to cpac way before i had gray hair. matt and i used to have dark black hair. this is i think the first cpac was 34 years ago. when i come here, i get energized. i love all the young people here and it's fantastic. i love doing this poll because this poll isn't about me. it's not about polls. it's all about you folks. it's about everything that matters created here and it's about your opinions and we're just going to give you some of the highlights. don't worry, another day or two we'll have everything that was in that poll, it will be all released like they always do, but here's some of the highlights. i think you're going to

>> yes, charlie. and this was actually clear right from the start, about 15 minutes after this was underway, we understand or we understood from both scotland yard but also senior officials in government that this was treated as a full on terrorist attack. this is the most serious terrorist attack in over ten years, again, there is an investigation underway, charlie, so one of the things that they told reporters and they briefed us numerous times is not to speculate too much on who the attacker could be, we heard from the prime minister teresa may, given a, giving a full statement outside of downing street a couple of minutes ago, and what she was very clear on was that this was an attack and what she said was this was not only an attack but an attack at the heart of 0 our capital city. she is taking of course this very seriously, but we don't know much more beyond that. she was in a cobra meeting with civil servants and also a senior police officers to try to figure out more who exactly was behind th

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charlie: no. charles: someone could have told tax returns and the reporter could have known they were stolen, that would exonerate the reporter? charlie: yes, it's a very parallel universe here. insider trading -- charles: what they have to tell the public. insider trading comes out to full disclosure. hey, i'm in the possession of stolen income tax. charlie: if you mindlessly -- if someone tells you, company x is going to report earnings tomorrow and you trade on that, okay, you can -- you don't know that he stole that information from the company, you just -- you just are receiving it, you cannot be charged with insider trading. you have to know it's been stolen. you to give the person the benefit. charles: okay. charlie: establish that he stole it. charles: stay right there. we bring attorneys that might know this a little better than we do. charlie: okay. charles: caroline along with diane, does president trump, would he have a case if he did decide if he we wanted to file a lawsuit? >> first

bianna and charlie remain with us here in new york. charlie, perhaps the pace of news because we have to be here broadcasting it during the day has been too frenetic, but i don't think the impact of comey's comment really landed until -- at least for me until this evening. this is an administration, and if not an administration, certainly a campaign effort under active and open investigation, and that is kind of the original sin which weights them down every day. >> i'm with you, brian. in our history, we've had counterintelligence investigations. we've even had presidents under fbi investigation. we've never had a commander and chief under a counterintelligence investigation. if you think about the way forward here, the three federal bodies investigating the president and his inner circle, the house intelligence committee, the senate intelligence committee, and the fbi, have the number of investigative tools in their arsenal. they can issue subpoenas. they can compel witness testimony under oath, and they can even grant immunity to wi

and charlie, this is complicated. but let me start with the punch line. let me start with the bottomline. this in no way, this in no way validates the president's claim that he was, or his associates at trump tower were the target of surveillance by the obama administration. it doesn't even come close to validating. >> rose: even suggesting it was ordered by the president. >> not even close. so what, what did the chairman say to the media and apparently to the president. he said that he had a dozen intelligence reports that somebody gave to him, he didn't get them officially from one of the agencies. somebody gave them to him and said i think there's a problem here, take a look at these. a dozen intelligence reports that he said involved incidental collection of u.s. persons, incidental collection about trump transition team members. that's what he said he saw. he also said that he was troubled that some of the names that he saw were unmasked. and we'll talk about what all of that means. >> rose: okay. >> let's start with what incidental collection is. th

and political analyst gayle trotter and charlie hurt. good to have you all with us. let me start with you, gayle, if i ma charlie hurt, i want to start with you, i'm told. charlie: i think this is a continuation of what we saw during the campaign it's evidence that donald trump is not -- the campaign is not over. he's going to keep going, and he's going to keep going pushing his agenda and take it out to the country. i think he will prove to be very, very effective. i can guarantee there are a lot of democrats and republicans as well who are very, very nervous about the fact if they oppose this guy, he can do what he's doing here in nashville where you have people braving unbelievably freezing temperatures by the thousands to get in there to see him. he still has enormous fire power. lou: i'm told gayle trotter is ready. it's clear these rallies are in clear response to the national left-wing media that's continues to berate him, badger him and drive his negatives higher. this is the best way he has with thousands of people ready to pour out to these rally venues to