charlie: why you?nd back to this, "my life so far," what was it inside of you that made you want it? was it that you loved it? you talk about it was not just winning for you. you wanted to defeat. [laughter] charlie: it is a killer instinct i think, or some variation of that. maria: as part of the process of writing this book, i started by looking at all of the journals i have been writing since i was a young girl. a lot of them were just these repetitive words that i am going to do well, i'm going to defeat this player, i'm going to play well, i'm going to concentrate, i'm going to focus. and i was probably eight or nine years old when i was writing these words. no one told me to keep a journal. no one told me what to say. it was sort of this self-esteem confidence i put on paper and in my mind. i never shared it with anyone else. so, i think it was -- i know i got an incredible opportunity. i think i realized it. even though my parents did not necessarily put pressure on me, i wanted to deliver for t

>> charlie: welcome to the program. tonight hillary clinton talks about her new book called "what happened." she tells us what happened in 2016 in the loss to donald trump. join us. >> you felt their anger and that's a very big difference. >> charlie: but their anger game from pain. >> no. >> charlie: you don't think so? >> look, the average voter for trump in the primary was making $72,000. people were making a lot less suffering more actually ended up largely voting for me if you take both whites and non-white voters. in exit polls people asked who they voted for if they cared about the economy they voted for me but if you cared about immigration and terrorism you voted for trump. it wasn't resentment but grievance and anger. i am not somebody who wants to foment anger. he relishes it. what he said in alabama a few days ago about black athletes it just got hoots and hollers and standing ovation. >> charlie: part one of our conversation with hillary clinton next. >> rose: funding for "charlie rose" has been provided by

charlie: hillary clinton is here.he was the democratic party's nominee for president in the 2016 election. she previously served as first lady, senator from new york, and secretary of state. secretary clinton received more votes than any other u.s. presidential candidate in history, besides president obama. but despite winning the popular wrote, she lost the election to political newcomer donald trump. secretary clinton reflects on the 2016 campaign in her new it is called "what happened," appropriately titled. first off, it is a best seller. the fastest rising nonfiction book in five years. this is what one reviewer said. it is a candid and funny postmortem in which she is both -- it is a feminist manifesto, a score settling jubilee, it's a rant comey, bernie sanders, vladimir putin, and james comey. [laughter] it's a primer on russian spying. i sometimes wonder if you add together his time spent on golf -- golf, twitter, and cable news, what is left. let me begin with this and take you back. i know you have been doi

charlie: welcome to the program.t is the end of summer and as we prepare for the next season, we bring you some of the theater conversations on "charlie rose." tonight, an evening at the theater and the playwright, director, and choose metcalfe and cooper. then we have "a doll's house, part ii." and then a look at the musicals with the star and writer. >> the contemporary audience is less used to rhetoric and the idea of speaking verse. and i think it is important to honor the tradition of speaking verse and poetry and giving audience poetry that has music to it. but i think it is important not to alienate the audience and claim that poetry, but to find a way that it is also contemporary communication. >> the way the play articulates is it talks about how there is a voice inside of your head. that voice is you. but you have all of these other voices colliding in on it. the voices of your parents, your husband, the people in your community telling you what you should be doing. so, she has to stop hearing those voices

♪ from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." charlie: maria sharapova is here.he is a five-time grand slam tennis champion. she is one of the world's most recognizable athletes. she has been ranked number one on five different occasions in her career. in2016, she was suspended competition for two years after testing positive for a banned substance. person its was shortened to 15 months after the court round she bore no significant fault and did not intend to cheat. she writes about that ordeal and her personal journey to the top of the tennis world in a book she titles "unstoppable: my life so far." i am pleased to have maria sharapova back at this table. welcome. a year ago, a very different time. >> a very different time. i remember this table, my first interview. charlie: what has happened that you look to as indicative of where your future is? >> the first step of being back on the court, that playing, has been incredible. it is what i wanted when i was at this table. it is what i looked forward to, that competition that i missed so much of playing the game

charlie: you won wimbledon when you were 18. maria: 17. charlie: 17.laughter] charlie: 17, grand slam, wimbledon. how many years ago that was? you are now 30. that was 13 years ago. has it worked out the way you wanted it to work out? and if not, how do you hold yourself responsible? maria: i think as a young girl, i knew that wimbledon and the u.s. open, that was the top of the top and that is where i saw myself and where i wanted to do really well. i wanted to hold those trophies. i wanted those championships. but what i really wanted, i wanted to get through the day and i wanted to feel like everything in that day, i did the best i could. and something in my mind -- i also believe it is the discipline i learned from an early age. you put a string of those days together, and you will get there. i never set a plan for myself. and i don't think -- that is not the way i do things. charlie: if someone asked you at that time when you were 17 and you won wimbledon, what is the most important in your life, i guess you would say winning tennis tournaments. i

charlie: david duke.d duke shows up for every media opportunity because -- charlie: that's the media does not make david duke say what he says, that he applauded what the president did. that's what david duke did. steve: the president has condemned david duke and what he stands for consistently. charlie: and so you. steve: absolutely -- and so do you. anyone who is a catholic raise in that area understands they are a hate group. i'm am so proud of the south and how far it has come racially. they have no part in the south and in american society. here's what is happening. you have these morons, richard spencer and these clowns on the anti-semitic thing, and the left media actually gives them a platform. it is ridiculous. these are a marginal people that have no impact in our movement. economic nationalism is the one unifying elements because it is stopping the elites in this country from it is rating the black working-class and hispanic working-class. it is economic nationalism that binds us together. is m

charlie: why?'t believe either of us -- i won't say i'm afraid of the truth -- but we can talk honestly about each other, about everything. charlie: that's a great feeling. jake: it's an amazing feeling. charlie: how do you feel about acting? [laughter] one of my favorite newspapers, "the guardian," you say to them, "how hard can acting be coming but the behavior of human character is an art to be -- to be discovered and experiment with pickup -- with." jake: was that really need? i have a very -- really me? have a very complicated relationship with it because it is pretend. we pretend so we can get closer to the truth. it is just this profound contradiction. but i believe in the craft of what i do as a very serious thing. a lot of people think of it as a bit absurd. i also think it is a bit absurd because it is playful and it has a real sense an opportunity for real play, where your imagination can just be released ito never-ending choices, but really, truly believe in the craft. there are so many

this is "charlie rose." charlie: leaders from around the world have heard today for the opening of the united nation general assembly. president trump addressed the form for the first time. in his 40 minute speech he threatened to destroy notes -- destroy north korea and called iran a rogue nation. pres. trump: united states has done very well since last november 8. the stock market is at an all-time high, a record. unemployment is at its lowest level in 16 years and because of regulatory and other reforms, we have more people working in the united states today than ever before. we meet at a time of both immense promise and great peril. it is entirely up to us whether we lift the world to new heights or let it fall into a valley of disrepair. the united states will forever be a great friend to the world and especially to its allies. but we can no longer be taken advantage of or enter into a one-sided deal where the united states gets nothing in return. the united states has great strength and patience, but i

charlie: it doesn't meet any test? judy: no. charlie: you know queen victoria?e knows i will do a bit of -- stephen: on trustworthy. charlie: -- judy: i don't care what the part is. charlie: you'll just take it? what is the dynamic of this relationship? stephen: there is no dynamic. i love her, admire her. charlie: she is not your typical british actress. judy: yes, i am. they say what is it like to play queens all of your life, i say i have not played queens all of my life. i played a lot of people who behaved badly. charlie: which do you prefer? judy: the ones who behaved badly, of course. stephen: they all say that. charlie: you can have more fun with them, is that it? judy: yes. very often you get -- constantly you play a part and then somebody looks at that and thinks i know what kind of person an old person of 80 could play. i don't want to play an old person. i want to play someone who can walk a tightrope --do you have that part? charlie: no. what i will create it. stephen: everything i like. charlie: yeah. will you go back on stage? judy: who knows. cha

charlie: why is he hesitant? jonathan: in what sense? charlie: to rescind it.onathan: i think it's very clear. he is surrounded by people telling him -- there was a tweet from ivanka before he ran for president celebrating the story of an undocumented immigrant. some of the people he is closest two in the world are telling him about the stories of these young children, please protect these children. trump often talks about what he can and cannot sell. he knows this is a decision that will appeal to his base. but he also knows the news cameras and cable news 24/7 will be rolling on images of young americans who have committed no crime being rounded up and sent out of the country. the most heartrending stories will be put on the newspapers he reads every morning. he is aware this is what is inevitable if he does this. he ideally wants to kick this to congress so he does not have to take responsibility for this. it may well end up on his desk in six months time. charlie: who is urging him to go ahead and rescind it now? jonathan: jeff sessions, the attorney genera

charlie: not one? [applause] charlie: 37 years.tice ginsberg: so what died in after marty 2010, jane, who was responsible g me out of the kitchen, she comes periodically , spend all day cooking, puts individual dinners in my freezer. charlie: you do not like for me to say this and you have said to me before, you are considered, with respect to women's rights, the thurgood marshall for feminism. [applause] anybody who knows about the history of the legal battles believes that. but you have been very reticent with that comparison. justice ginsberg: yes, it is not an apt comparison. whatever i did -- i should say we copied thurgood marshall's building in building blocks not asking the court to , take a giant step. thurgood marshall would state to courts, separate but equal is not before the house today. these facilities are asking to be equal. thehe said, we can see enforced separation of the races can never be equal. we took that measured approach of building step-by-step and we copied that from him. but the enormous difference is wh

charlie: what happened?n: when i got there they clearly had a message that they wanted to send to the rest of the world. this was not a casual choice to allow an individual reporter. they typically allow in reporters in large groups. this less frequently. and what they wanted the world to understand, over and over they said it, is that will not give up their nuclear program. if there was ever a point where they might have been willing to bargain that away for the sake of other elements in a diplomatic relationship, they believe that moment has passed. that is important because at the moment, the united states, its strategy is predicated on trying to get north korea to give up its nuclear program. charlie: why does it want a nuclear program? evan: this is a key question. as you know, this has been a source of tremendous debate. they say that they want it for self-defense. as north korean officials told me their leader does not want to , end up with like other leaders andke saddam hussein up theirwho gave nucl

charlie: why?ieve either of us -- i won't say i'm not afraid of the truth -- but we can talk honestly about each other, about everything. charlie: that's a great feeling. jake: it's an amazing feeling. charlie: how do you feel about acting? [laughter] charlie: i'll tell you why, one of my favorite newspapers, "the guardian," you say to them, "how hard can acting be, but the behavior of human character is a craft to be discovered and experimented with. my favorite actors are like artists." jake: wow. are you sure i said that? that's a great quote. i tend to wax. ang lee once said something i will never forget. he said, we pretend so we can get closer to the truth. which is just kind of this profound contradiction. i believe in the craft of what i do as a very serious thing. a lot of people think of it as a bit absurd. i also think it is a bit absurd because it is playful and it has a real sense an opportunity for real play, where your imagination can just be released into never-ending choices, but i

charlie: back a moment. charlie: dr.eil degrasse tyson and is here, the most -- described as the most powerful nerd in the universe, sexiestthis -- the astrophysicist alive. how many astrophysicists do you know? he is the director of the hayden planetarium, also an evangelist for scientific curiosity. he hosts a radio and tv show called "star talk." his latest book is called "astrophysics for people in a hurry." it is perfect for me. welcome back. neil: that sexiest astrophysicist, that was 40 pounds and 17 years ago. just to put that in context. charlie: you were a young dude? who did you write this for, people in a hurry? neil: people have jobs, go to school, have kids. if you are still curious as an adult, is there anything that serves that busy lifestyle? i wanted to take these headlines i know you have seen like xo planets, dark matter, multiverse, things about the universe i know you have seen it. charlie: but you don't know what it means. neil: exactly. i wanted to put them under an umbrella in a story arc. while

charlie: welcome to the program.nd ashe end of summer, we prepare for our next season, we bring you some of our favorite conversations here on "charlie rose." we have technology discussions with jeff bezos, susan wojcicki, and investor reid hoffman. >> talk about virtual reality. >> many describe it as the next big thing. every time, virtual reality is better. if people have not checked out virtual reality, they showed. we are getting to the point of, the science fiction -- maybe our classes for kids will be in virtual reality. maybe all discussions and conferences, may be "charlie rose" will be in virtual reality. a lot of prospects. before we see those science-fiction futures, we will see more mass-market adoption of a movie thing or technology thing. charlie: entrepreneurship for the hour, next. ♪ charlie: jeff bezos sounded amazon in 1994 out of his garage as an online bookseller. today, it is one of the world's most valuable companies, he is one of the richest in the world, second to bill gates. their ambition i

charlie: that was your deal? steve: 100%. charlie: why?: because if you're going to go after donald trump for his words, let's have the clintons actions.inton's those women wanted to confront clinton for a while. i was prepared to give them the opportunity. we had the trap set and they walked into it only at the last second did the -- charlie: debate organizers. steve: they almost had of fistfight. charlie: between you and whom+ what they had allowed to happen with mark cuban at the other debate. they had promised he would not be in the line of sight cuban , made a big deal to get in trump's head and they put him right down here. i went to them -- rudy said before him, i said, how is this they said we can't control it, we don't have security control. we tried to pull the same thing and i had the women -- the accusers -- sitting in the vip box. bill clinton had to walk right past them on national tv to start the debate. and guess what? they were going to confront them. charlie: what does this say about steve bannon? steve: he's a good count

charlie: rouhani. he is a centrist.t is a fight, a struggle over whether iran will remain a revolutionary nation or going to be a normal nation. it was fought publicly -- charlie: i asked the prime minister of iran. he said we want to be both. michael: you can't be both. both cannot exist, coexist at the same time. this debate played out publicly on the debate stage between rouhani and this very conservative candidate for president. the iranian people voted and spoke overwhelmingly they wanted to go in a certain direction. the question in trying to manage the nuclear issue, president has to make a decision soon, and managing the regional misbehavior, how do you do that in a way that does not strengthen the hardliners and weaken the centrists? nick is going to tell us -- charlie: before you do that. when you talk about supporting terrorism, the charge against iran is they are heavily involved against the saudis in yemen. that is one. go ahead. nick: iran itself conducts terrorism around the world against israeli and jewi

charlie: that was your deal? steve: 100%. charlie: why?cause if you're going to have donald trump defend his words, i was prepared to give them the opportunity -- we had the trap set and they walked into it only at the last second did the debate organizers -- charlie: debate organizers. between you and hill? who?ou and what they allow to happen with mark cuban at the other debate. cuban made a big deal to get in trump's head and they put him right down here. rudy said before him, i said, how is this they said we can't control it, we don't have security control. we tried to pull the same thing and i had the women -- the accusers -- sitting in the vip box. bill clinton had to look past them and they were going to confront him. charlie: what does this say about steve bannon? steve: he's a good counterpunch or. i'm a street fighter. if i'm in a fight, i'm going to win. bounds of decency> is it outside the bounds? i don't think so. their campaign -- they had not gone after -- the mainstream and the left tried to destroy donald trump particularl

charlie: -- we never talked about the robots. charlie: go ahead.et: i will just -- brian: i will just use our companies example. we have applied technology in ways to make our company more effective. we had 280,000 people in 2010 when i became ceo. we have 210,000 now. charlie: how many of those were because of technology? brian: it would be hard to say. in some sense, all of them are. i don't mean that as mathematically precise, but in some sense you have paper-based processes, inefficient processes, and use technology to improve those processes in sit of replacing workers. it just made them more effective. but our volume is going up. we're not saying the company has shrunk. my view as a ceo is i've got to look at that further and further out. we will hire 8000 people this quarter. i get 8000 opportunities not to that i candy actually shrink the company, and if you plan ahead i think we are going to work through this issue. it is going to keep coming at us. ♪ so we need tablets installed... with the menu app ready to roll. in 12 weeks. yeah. ♪ ♪ t

charlie: in 2016-2017?we were all on set, talking about it. >> we thought we were in a different place than my work, and after the result of the election, it was, you know, laid bare. all on the table, the level of misogyny we are living with every day. and you cannot make a show about one without -- about pron without some aspect of it. it is kind of an amazing time now that i think we have all been forced to take a look at where we really are. let us talk about misogyny and sexism in america. amazing time to be talking about this show and airing this show where that is such a major theme. relevances there any to the idea of charlottesville and racism? you asked me politically what is going on at this moment in the country, i would say that is the backlash against women and people of color distinctly linked in the most optimistic way i can imagine. i think we're looking at a moment which is the last primal in thisf white males society, the last moment of "i just lived through eight years of a president of

charlie: and there are more options, obviously. charlie: many more options, charlie. our founding fathers never designed this to operate the same as our house. the house basically can say we've got 51% of the votes, 218 and whether you are a democrat in control or republican, we don't care what the other side wants. said theshington senate is like the saucer that cools the hot tea when it spills from the house. it cools it off so it can be drank. that's who we are. charlie: i think you are saying this, but i'm asking to confirm. the president also met today with tim scott. clearly he wanted to talk about charlottesville. he clearly may be having some new thoughts or second thoughts, i don't know. but he clearly seems to want to talk about that, an issue in which senator scott from south carolina, an african-american, has been critical of him. he is meeting tonight with pelosi and schumer, the democratic leaders in the senate and the house. do you feel like there has been an inflection point? senator manchin: i think -- charlie: go ahead. senator manchin: i think he un

>> qamar studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." charlie: hillary clinton is here. she was the democratic party's nominee for president in the 2016 election. she previously served as first lady, senator from new york, and secretary of state. despite winning the popular wrote, she lost the election to political newcomer donald trump. secretary clinton reflects on the 2016 campaign in her new " ak called "what happened/ properly title. please to have you back at this table. it's the best -- fastest rising nonfiction book in five years. what happened is not one book, but many. it's a candid and funny postmortem in which she is -- it is a feminist manifesto, a score settling jubilee, it's a rant against james comey, vladimir putin, and james comey. [laughter] it's a primer on russian spying. i sometimes wonder if you add together his time spent on golf and cable news. 9:00 p.m., election night, you thought you were going to win. ms. clinton: i did. the first returns that came in were not what we thought, from florida and north carolina, but we knew that those would be c

charlie: china.e all saw xi jinping, and speak for a world in which a global point of view was appropriate. does that suggest china is prepared to exercise more influence in the world and has the appetite for exercising more influence in the world, and wants to see the world turn to china in reflection of its increased power in the world? >> it was highly ironic and a little hypocritical for xi jinping to say, "i am the guardian of globalization," when they are one of the most protectionist nations on earth. in a more serious vein, the chinese are not intend on global domination. they want a relationship with the u.s. on big issues like climate change, i think xi jinping appreciates it very much. his joint venture with barack obama crated the paris agreement of they know they need a good 2015. relationship with our government and private sector to stabilize the global economy. we are partners with china, but we are also competitors, and we are beginning to see that in east asia because the chinese ar

charlie: stop there.eople like apples -- apple and big companies have huge amounts of money parked overseas money , that they made overseas, selling their products overseas. what does the president want to do? what do democrats want to do? senator manchin: i can speak for myself and a few of us who were there talking. we want it repatriated, brought back. we understand that it has to be brought back, but there are people who have been here longer periods of time that remember when the money was brought that before from repatriation. it was brought back and given in dividends and bonuses and not put into the bricks and mortars, if you will. or the investment into their companies and expanding. if that money is coming back and we are giving you a tremendous tax break to bring it back, there should be some residuals from that. everyone is still talking on where i think we can find a pathway forward on that one time money coming back. but if we do the tax code and make the changes and do it correctly, that sh

charlie: he is not insecure? insecure and go through what he went through in this campaign? has anybody in modern political history ever had the mainstream media, the establishment on both parties, come out to destroy him? and by the way, in order to get through that and win and govern, you have to be so comfortable in your skin you don't have time during the presidential campaign to find out who you are. you have to know who you are. donald trump knows who he is. that is what drives the mainstream media crazy. charlie: you keep saying what drives the mainstream media crazy. chairmantalk about the of the senate foreign relations committee raising questions about the president, that is not the mainstream media. the media simply recording what they are doing. >> that is the establishment. charlie: have you ever had a conversation about the fitness of the president to run, to be president? have you ever had a conversation? >> are you kidding me? he is not just fit to be president. charlie: i'm just asking you the qu

♪ >> from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." charlie: welcome to the program.t is a new fall season. congress is back in session. and so, we turn this evening, in the beginning, to bob costa of the "washington post." mr. costa: we see a president who is grappling with his base. who wants purity when it comes to hardline immigration policy, who wants results, and his own instincts, his own advisors even, and the republican leadership want to show the republican party as more compassionate to hispanic voters. even though they know the president is well-known known as someone who is supportive of a border wall and more aggressive taxes on immigration. charlie: and we continue looking at the situation in north korea with david sanger, david ignatius, nicholas burns, and lionel barber. >> there are a lot of things that the u.s. government could go do. some of them overt, some of them covert. they all suffer from the same problem, which is while the war plan and all of the times they have war gamed this, you have the u.s. winning. in the interim, you may well have hu

charlie: just like that? i know -- that is why i am calling you when i the "we don't need money." it was the thing about stability. despite the seven or eight acquisitions, what he saw was when this got on track, it would be where it is today, earning $5 billion per quarter, $20 billion a year, doing the right thing for the customer the right way. for that, he got rewarded. interestingly enough, if you are a shareholder that had bought the day before he called me, you would have gotten the same thing. he had the courage to do it in a big number. he has been terrific. charlie: what is the right balance between retail, investment banking, trading, wealth management, credit cards? brian: we think about it this way. there are constraints on how big you can become in something. if you look at our company, about 30% of our balance sheet is in the markets business. 70% isn't. as the markets ebb and flow, it is not going to have that big of an impact. 10% of our revenue comes from fixed income trading. 15% of our rev

charlie: and newt gingrich?pick of things and he was upfront at the time that i've got more to do for you guys on the outside than inside. he could have had his pick of what he wanted also. general flynn. -- and that's why general flynn was selected. jared kushner came in afterwards and we talked and the president wanted general flynn right out of the box, so he was selected right away. general flynn, rudy giuliani, sessions, etc., chris christie because of the billy bush weekend was not looked at for a cabinet position. charlie: he wasn't there for you on billy bush weekend, so he would not have a cabinet position? plane leaves the at 11:00. if you are on the plane, you are on the team. he did not make the plane. that was on saturday. the plane leaves at 11:00. those on the team are on the plane. rudy giuliani was on the plane. governor christie was not. all that nonsense about jared kushner could not be farther from the truth. never heard jared kushner say anything negative about governor christie. everything

it matters, charlie. the lives of more affected by these policies so yes i care a lot about it. more than that, i think the job is supposed to really humble you. that is what i have seen. i remember sitting in the oval after 9/11 with george w. bush. the bravado, the funny -- charlie: he was humbled. secretary clinton he was : humbled. i looked into his eyes. i knew the shock and pain he must feel. he was there to ask for help for new york. i have been with barack obama in the situation room making really difficult decisions , including whether he would go after some of bin laden. -- osama bin laden. we have to operate in an environment in which we know we will never know everything, and that humbles you. presidentm to have a who doesn't care and does not know what he doesn't know. who operates based on his -- his highs and most favored response ofthat you know -- that yell the crowd that consist of people who support him who buy into , him, who love him. who can see no wrong in anything that he does and

charlie: take a look. one of the things i learned in the war is that we are not top species on the planet because we are nice. we are a very aggressive species. it is in us. people talk a lot about how the military turns kids into killing machines. i will always argue it is finishing school. what we do with civilization is we learn to inhibit and rope in these aggressive tendencies. and we have to recognize them. i worry about a whole country that does not recognize them. think about how many times we get ourselves into scrapes as a nation because we are always the good guys. sometimes i think that if we thought we were not the good guys, we would get into less wars. raisedhe question you about why the war is so painful and divisive for us, i think karl is getting at that. there is a cognitive dissonance with who we think we are at the country. what we did in world war ii and the triumphant experience of doing the right thing for the right reason at a tremendous cost. that is ingrained in our dna. vietnam

charlie: we begin this week in washington.resident donald trump and republican senate leaders are engaged in a search for votes in a last-ditch effort to repeal and replace obamacare. senate leader mitch mcconnell has announced he will bring the graham cassidy bill up for a vote for next friday -- before next friday, perhaps on wednesday. joining me is mike allen. let me begin with what we just heard this friday afternoon, that john mccain has announced he will vote no. what are the implications of that for the graham cassidy bill? mike: as you know, this is a almostamatic moment that certainly kills the graham cassidy bill. the bill could not lose another vote. this means it likely will go down. the amazing thing about this is republican leaders again. themselves out on the slim -- this limb. i don't how many times they need to put their hands on the stove to know this will not have a happy ending for them. rand paul, a hard know. senator susan collins likely no. that is enough to kill it. you look at any of the fact thiss ab

charlie: welcome to the program.t is the end of summer and as we prepare for the next season, we bring you some of our favorite conversations here on "charlie rose." tonight, hamlet at the theater. -- tonight, conversations on technology. >> talk about virtual reality. there have been many cycles were people describe virtual reality as the next big thing. if people haven't checked checkout virtual reality, they should. maybe we will take classes for our kids, maybe all discussions and conferences, maybe the charlie rose show will be in virtual reality. i think before we really see those futures, we will begin to see a more mass-market adoption of either a movie or entertainment thing. >> entrepreneurship, for the hour, next. jeff bezos founded amazon out of his garage. it is among the world's most valuable companies. he is one of the world's richest people, second to only bill gates. amazon's mission is to sell everything to everybody. services is a leading company in the cloud. became the amazon first digital stream

charlie: supply and demand. brian: the only thing you worry about is rate is going up, growth is going down. people are expending the men need more money and they think the economy is going to be more -- reserve's federal thinks they don't have to be more accommodative. charlie: -- brian: i think they have been very careful. it is tricky, because nobody has ever done it. charlie: how much restriction on your company's growth, if any, comes from the regulatory structure coming from dodd-frank? does that really hurt your bottom line? brian: if you remember, last time i used the example where we had 10 factories and we had to leave three idle. that's really the biggest impact. if we have 30% of our capital can't take any risk, if he said let's make that 20%, that extra 10% would be $150 billion of loans. that would increase competition. either loans would be cheaper, because we would go out and do more. i am talking about the whole system. secondly, we would probably get slightly more aggressive to produce loans. t

charlie: i know you don't. steve: i don't believe that for a second. charlie: i know you don't.y talk. donald trump cares about them. he has a plan. charlie: i'm just telling you. steve: ok. they also believe that there is, on your part, and the president's part, not enough appreciation for some of the values also that made america great. and you do not appreciate that and you do not appreciate the diversity, do don't appreciate respect for civil rights. you do not appreciate the respect for american values that have been part of the american foundation. and that is what bothers them. they think they saw part of that in charlottesville, and they want to know where is the better angels of steve bannon and the president? what do you say to them? steve: you see the better angels of the president every day in his actions. i was raised in a desegregated neighborhood. the north side of richmond is predominantly black. i went to an integrated catholic school. i served in the military. in the military, in the 1970's, i think was the one institution that led our country in full integrati

charlie: 20 mean by territorial?e: if i operate around the world, i do not have this problem where i cannot bring the money back to the u.s. and use it. by having one tax rate for u.s. earnings. charlie: what do companies want to see done by the government with the money overseas? they say the taxation is prohibitive. brian: i think there are two parts. they want it to be a territorial system like everybody else has. for the buildup of learning is, i think the right policy matter would be to get it to tax around around 8% to 10% to get it back here. charlie: should there be a mandate you do something with that money? charlie: --brian: i think money is fungible. where i depart from some people is people will put it to work. the straightforward question is, in the alternative if you don't , allow it back, what will happen? it will stay over there. if you think about the great global companies we have the pleasure of serving, there is a huge amount of demand outside the united states for cars and phones. cars in china s

charlie: how does it do that? >> it has an apparatus -- charlie: what are they doing? assassinating -- >> the saudi ambassador in the united states several years ago. charlie: that was not carried out. it was interrupted. >> it was interrupted. there was an attack in europe several years ago. iranians were involved in that. i think it is fair to say they are the only state in the world is still practices terrorism as a state practice. they provide support to terrorist groups, hezbollah, hamas, and others. hezbollah would not exist without the support it gets from iran. support to insurgents in the region trying to overthrow sunni regimes in yemen, iran, and saudi arabia. their support for president assad is another issue. that is what i mean by regional misbehavior. >> i think president trump is right to try to push the iranians back on the big struggle for power in the middle east. president trump is wrong to try to wiggle out of the iran nuclear deal. why? there is a big shia/sunni struggle for power. charlie: we have taken sides and said we support the saudis who re

ken: thank you, charlie. charlie: george funding being one of them.l security adviser two presidents kennedy and the president johnson. here is what johnson is saying to him expressing his doubts. ohnson: the more i think -- if youon't know ask me, it looks like we getting into another korea. we just got to think about -- i will get this sergeant of mine. a little old kid thinking what in the hell have i ordered him out there for? what is it worth to me? what is it worth to this country? we have a treaty but the hell, everyone else has a treaty and we are not doing anything. that is the trouble. that is what i have the world is going to do it this thing comes apart on us. that is the dilemma. the -- action will take will it take though? kilis. people as possible were the offensive is as low as possible. >> it would not down the entire anti-communist movement. lynn: i find one of the most devastating pieces of footage is the 1960's and senator had hearings to discuss what was going on in vietnam. he brought the author of the containment philosophy. thi

charlie: h.r.cmaster was saying they were thinking about this, and they don't have to leave here they are sending a signal maybe they are willing to on paris.other ideas with respect to iran, i'm hearing there are more stories they may not want to get out of the deal. i agree with nick about the idea he's having a rough time in washington. it may conceivably be in his .ind coming for four days. he's coming to a place he previously derived -- he seems to be singing something about israel about iran, things that he may not allowed sanctions to stop the current version of the deal. that is one side of it. the other side is that it is very difficult. europeans are unlikely to go with him as he goes against iran. he is in awkward spot on this. charlie: how is america's reputation around the world today? you are a former death -- diplomat. >> difficult. a pulse says our popularity and credibility are dramatically reduced, except in places like israel, where president trump has been well regarded. reallys