its angels, companies are scrambling to coop up with esg guidelines, environmental, social and governance. yeah, right. [laughter] that hay be coming from the biden administration. oh, yes, it's charlie. hi, charlie. >> reporter: hey, liz. i'm talking about it because ceos are talking about it, liz. and from what i understand, ceos are now starting to line up outside the door of gary gensler, the chairman of the sec -- not quite outside his door, but at least trying to get a call in with him, so to speak, so figuratively lining up outside his door to figure out just how far he's going to push these rules. because if he does what he claims he wants to do, liz, let's be real frank here, this is probably the biggest change in corporate governance requirements in terms of disclosures that has hit wall street and hit corporate america probably since the 1930s. this is really big stuff if he goes full on with this stuff. so ceos are lining up. they're trying to get, gauge how far he's going to go. and here's, based on some of the things he's said and inti if mated, what we know about these rules. it's a good chance it could get pushed, it could get voted on as early as the end of this year