here's what charlie beck has to say. he wrote a letter to waze.riting to alert you that your company's waze app poses a danger to the lives of police officers in the u.s. that danger was demonstrated in its use in the recent assassination of two nypd officers. here the chief in la is making a connection. right? between this app and the safety of cops generally. if you're going to target police, target police officers, would you use this waze app that's what he's contending. do you agree? >> no, i don't agree. in reality, you know there are police scanner apps. there are a lot of ways to track police. in new york city, you walk down the street the police are right in front of you. it's sort of a specious argument. there are some taking this position because it hurts them in terms of speed traps. there was a lawsuit in 2011 some 2 million-dollar fine lapd by former officers that said there are quotas for traffic tickets. gerri: there are quotas. and i think a lot of people look at these complaints and say wow isn't this a threat to the police depart

why you felt attacked attacked but i'm wondering if you disagree with chief bratten and chief charlie beck current chief of lapd when both of them testified that the future was not in handcuff and that police would have to change their mooindmind set and outlook if they were going to bond with these communities of color. do you disagree with that. >> i will start with that. the answer is no. that's why again, i go back to that for over 20 years has been trying to get a national commission on criminal justice to try to look at the entire system. we've been wanting this for a long time. we can't get anybody in congress that would take it forward. the answer is we've seen this train coming for a while and we've been trying to be upfront and we have not been able to get people to actually take action so the answer is i absolute agree that the entire system needs to be looked at unfortunately law enforcement keeps taking the brunt of it. again sentencing and all of those type of things, we don't control those. the other thing i found interesting before with the schools and making arrests you kn

understand why you felt attacked, but i'm wondering if you disagree with chief bratten and chief charlie beck, current chief of lapd, when both of them testified that the future was not in handcuffs and that police would have to change their mindset and outlook if they were going to bond with these communities of color. do you disagree with that? >> i will start with that. the answer is no. that's why again, i go back to the tcp -- iecp that for over 20 years has been trying to get a national commission on criminal justice to try to look at the entire system. we've been wanting this for a long time. we could not get anybody in congress that would take it forward. the answer is we've seen this train coming for a while and we've been trying to be upfront and we have not been able to get people to actually take action. so the answer is i absolute agree that the entire system needs to be looked at. unfortunately law enforcement keeps taking the brunt of it. again, sentencing and all of those type of things, we don't control those. the other thing i found interesting before with the schools and ma

. >> reporter: los angeles police chief charlie beck cently wrote a letter to google which owns waze the lives of the police officers in the united states. he asked the company to disable the police alert function after reports surfaced that brinsley used the waze app to kill two new york city officers last month even though investigators don't believe the app was directly linked to the crime, some are concerned it can help criminals. >> it become as tool for people who break the law. >> reporter: this week the sheriff's association asked to meet with google. >> everything that we can do to slow them down and stop them is in >> reporter: google hasn't announced plans to make any changes to waze. in a statement the company said many of its police partners support the app because most users tend to drive more carefully when they believe law enforcement is nearby. >> does it change your driving pattern? >> it sure does. i definitely give my speedometer a quick glance and slow down. >> reporter: waze just helps him avoid getting a ticket. >> there he is. if i had. been paying attention,

chief charlie beck. before him bill bratton. we really make sure folks know we have a special order special order 40. so if you come in contact with a police officer we're not just going to ask for your citizenship or documentation status and then send you over the ice for no other reason. not just because of a criminal act baugh just because of that. bewant people to testify and went them to be witnesses and report kriemsz. and krooims. and we is a very good relationship now. and helps them feel a part of the civic life too. >> peggy ochokski with the hispanic and lifetime southern californiian. i feel that the hispanic community whose here legally is going to benefit tremendously from this. but i got a different perspective on immigration when i came here to d.c. and that is that a lot of jobs that especially blacks used to do in this town. especially construction have been completely taken over by latino contractors who often use illegal workers and underbid the black contractors. i've talked to many. i've interviewed them. i

this week after "charlie hebdo" published its latest issue again depicting the prophet muhammad on its cover. joining me is a muslim chaplain here at georgetown university. father edward beck. and rabbi matt gerurtz from shore hills, new jersey. great to have three faces represented around the table. i'll start off if i can with you, imam. the obama administration is reluctant to call what we saw in paris islamic terrorism. do you agree with that? >> no, for me, terrorism has no religion. terrorism is terrorism. it's an act of terrorism by individuals, organizations, groups against people, against individuals. islamic terrorism for me is a religion of peace. a religion of compassion and goodness and cannot in any way, shape or form be in support of terrorism. >> i want to ask you to see if you agree that there's been a level of debate necessary. i want to just bring up a point. asked senator burr and senator murphy about this as well. some of america's closest allies you can argue, convincingly aren't doing enough. this week in saudi arabia lashing a blogger who tried to start this very debate online. pakistan another close ally sentencing a christian woman to death for bl

charlie hebdo" where this all began just about 48 hours ago. we will see what happens. >> hans, thank you so much. let's get back to noel beck worth. you were saying there were a lot of helicopters from where you are. you could also see the school where you knew teachers were keeping the students on the ground. are there any updates? what can you see now? >> well, less unfortunately. the fog has cut down the visibility. that helicopters seem to be moving around. we are hearing police sirens, but nothing much. we are barricaded in our house, watching through the window. [indiscernible] >> have you spoken to your neighbors? any of your neighbors that maybe have any other information? are people talking to each other in the town? >> we heard from one of the schoolteachers that the press have been down there and they say that one person has been killed at the printing factory. i don't know whether it is the hostage or if these takers have been killed. >> this is i guess the crux of the problem. there is an ongoing manhunt and it is difficult to have information. we had press reports about possible killings but those have been denied by