charlie cole and keeps you young, keeps you everything. -- you you can beat it. can't beat it. ♪ charlie: how did you find the blues? >> it was a little girl when i heard fat stem now and check very. for me, soulful, funking music is something i always loved. even elvis was funky. motown, to like the otis redding, aretha franklin. i love that rmb stuff. i think most of the world loves american rhythm and blues and jazz. that just got that beat and that side to side thing that puts the role in rock. charlie: i know what you mean. you once said that your sound, your guitar sounds like bacon smells. >> i was trying to think of something on the spot that is undeniably -- charlie: good. on a: on the edge of guilty. there is nothing like the wii it feels to have that sound come out of your amplifier or your guitar. the slide guitar is so expressive, and never stops giving. thelie cole: bb said best. you are on the road, too. is the funthe road part. when you find a great song, i do not write my own stuff that much but when i find a song that suits me and fits me and i g

charlie cole and many came from a slaveowning state. jon: right. the ideals of inalienable rights in slavery, we had the same argument over and over again. at times it has been more fall -- volatile. at times it has been more violent but it has never been easy. , i do notng for this see this as some form of endpoint. it is a continuation of a long battle to determine what we are. it made me wonder, one of the things that i think struck me andabout this election, maybe i just missed it. nobody asked donald trump what makes america great. that was the part -- charlie: nobody said to him, what is it that makes america great, what is it you want to do, what is it that we are not doing now? jon: what are the metrics. it seems like from listening to him, the metrics are that it is a competition. and losses.is wins we are going to win more and that is what makes us great? and i think what many would say is,what makes us great america is an anomaly in the world. there are a lot of people, and i think his candidacy has animated that thought that a multi-eth