we had 14 of us, susan collins, myself and a lot of our good friend, republicans and democrats sat down and craft this. work with the no labels type mentality across with charlieuld do and would do. we were prepared to move forward. that was the template used to stop the shut down. we're still engaged. we can come up with something. that's why there's a month gap. december 13th to january 15th. january 15th is when the sequestration of 967 comes into play. 967 billion. that's what they are trying to avoid. the military takes the deepest hit this year. everybody wants to avoid that. only way you can avoid is get a budget. >> do republicans start moving away from sequestration because military -- >> i think so. both the sequestration and the experience of the fall shutdown sobered up enough republicans. >> don't you sense that? >> i do. >> i actually think the government shutdown, i think the shock of the government shutdown, i think the collapsing poll numbers after the government shutdown, i think that was the wake up call. >> but why does that even have to happen? it's like telling a child not to put their hand on a hot pot. >> they handed them a hot stove an