dish network founder charlie ergen speaks out. charlie: i think we have a lot to talk about now. tty: for the first time on bloomberg television, ergen weighs in on the seismic shift taking place in television, his plans to become the next big wireless company, and why he might be looking to merge with that guy, the pink t-shirt wearing t-mobile ceo john ledger. charlie: they certainly have done a fantastic job in kind of being an upstart company, the uncarrier, so to speak. betty: but the famously tough boss faces questions about his management style. charlie: we have high expectations, and if you are not somebody who is used to high expectations, you're just not as comfortable here. betty: join me as charlie ergen dishes it all out on this edition of "titans at the table." hello, i am betty liu. welcome to "titans at the table." dish network founder charlie ergen has always been something of a fearless renegade. from being thrown out of casinos for counting cards to selling satellites out of his car trunk around colorado. ergen led a group that created echostar in the 1980's and

i think anybody would take a call from charlie ergen. charlie: oh, i think people will take our call, but i think that certainly the wireless industry is controlled by two companies today. and they are very -- they are 20 times, you know, bigger than we are. so, they are going to make their moves and do their things and people are probably going to react to that. and so sometimes, you just have to be ready to move when you see other things that happen in the industry. but we know that -- the one thing we know for sure is the spectrum we have is valuable, the spectrum is going to get put to use, and it is going to create value for our shareholders. but we just want to make sure it gets put to use in the most economical way and providing the best competition and the best product. betty: could charlie ergen's next play be a merger with t-mobile? i will ask him if all of those reports make sense when "titans at the table" returns. ♪ ♪ betty: welcome back to "titans at the table" and my conversation with media titan charlie ergen. for years, e

dish network founder charlie ergen speaks out. charlie: i think we have a lot to talk about now. tty: for the first time on bloomberg television, ergen weighs in on the seismic shift taking place in television, his plans to become the next big wireless company, and why he might be looking to merge with that guy, the pink t-shirt wearing t-mobile ceo john ledger. charlie: they certainly have done a fantastic job in kind of being an upstart company, the uncarrier, so to speak. betty: but the famously tough boss faces questions about his management style. charlie: we have high expectations, and if you are not somebody who is used to high expectations, you're just not as comfortable here. betty: join me as charlie ergen dishes it all out on this edition of "titans at the table." hello, i am betty liu. welcome to "titans at the table." dish network founder charlie ergen has always been something of a fearless renegade. from being thrown out of casinos for counting cards to selling satellites out of his car trunk around colorado. ergen led a group that created echostar in the 1980's and

dish network founder charlie ergen speaks out. charlie: i think we have a lot to talk about now. first time on bloomberg television, ergen weighs in on the seismic shift taking place in television, his plans to become the next big wireless company, and why he might be looking to merge with that guy, the pink t-shirt wearing t-mobile ceo john ledger. charlie: they certainly have done a fantastic job in kind of being an upstart company, the uncarrier, so to speak. betty: but the famously tough boss faces questions about his management style. charlie: we have high expectations, and if you are not somebody who is used to high expectations, you're just not as comfortable here. betty: join me as charlie ergen dishes it all out on this

dish network founder charlie ergen. >> give a lot to talk about. >> for the first time on bloomberg television, he weighs in on the seismic shift taking place in television. big plan to become the next wireless company and why he might be looking to merge with this guy. the pink shirt wearing john ledger. >> they have done a fantastic job. but, the famously tough boss is in questions but his management style. ,> if you're not used to that you're not comfortable.

charlie changing his title once again. giving up his role as president but will remain chairman and ceo. puppy veteran erik karlsson becomes president and coo. morehange gives ergento work on a plan to enter the wireless industry. dish is sitting on a $50 billion supply of airwaves the company has yet to use. with is inspired to speak the likes of verizon and at&t with a high-speed network for television. coming up, the biggest education overhaul in the united states in years could be a watershed moment for the future of silicon valley's talent pool. code.org's ceo joins us next. we will bring you the top 10 tech trends for the year ahead. ♪ in this week's edition of my longform interview "studio 1.0." we hear from troy carter about everything from lady gaga to uber and lyft. why he says taylor swift's argument to spotify is flawed. you can download that episode on itunes and are all available online at bloomberg.com. turning to education, president obama calls it a christmas miracle. this week he signed into law a sweeping rewrite of the controversial federal education law no child left behind. givesw law calls on -- states more control about how to evaluate tea