what charlie ergen -- liz: he didn't say it didn't matter. in his mouth. >> charlie ergen is saying, no, that's not true. you knew that as you converted to over that boost customers would face price increases because, again, a lot of them don't have iphones, right? they have flip phones, they have less sophisticated devices. you knew that, that's why you had a grace period til 2023. and, by the way, this is a big part of the merger. without this part of the merger, not even the trump administration doj would have approved it. liz: right. >> so this is where you could see the biden administration get involved here, and it's going to be an interesting issue. we put peter adderton on, the former ceo of boost, and pointed this out. and then you had sievert on and then literally all hell broke between dish and t-mobile. good job. [laughter] liz: that's what they're there for. claman and gasparino just spreading sunshine. charlie, thank you very much. charlie gasparino. all right, check it. we're talking about sports betting. ma madness. oh, guy --

so charlie ergen buys boost, but those customers still need the t-mobile network because charlie ergenilt his network yet. in the midst of all this stuff, they're supposed to have access to a low-cost 3g system for their phones. this is people who are lower income, flip phones, things of that nature. but what's going to happen is at some point because t-mobile is moving to a 5g scenario, all those customers from boost will get cleared out of 5g network -- which is supposed to be good because it's super fast, but it's going to cost them money because their flip phones are not compatible with 5g. under the terms of agreement, they were supposed to have, like, a year or so to make that transition. ergen is saying t-mobile is forcing them off immediately, in the next couple months, and that's where the battle is brewing. the fcc is involved here now, from what we understand. and now what we understand, there is, there's been some movement for the two sides, meaning t-mobile and dish to patch things up, to have charlie ergen, from what we understand, meet with mike sievert, the ceo of t-mob